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| First Ulitities sponsor of Super League
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| I get my gas and leccy from them!
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| I bet it's a poor deal
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| Can i just say, i really do wish people would remove their rather large chip on their shoulders when it comes to super league, is that not the league we want our team to be in, or have i got that wrong. Also we as rl fans should be celebrating any new company who wants to be associated and invest in our wonderful sport.
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| Quote ="WOLRAB316"Can i just say, i really do wish people would remove their rather large chip on their shoulders when it comes to super league, is that not the league we want our team to be in, or have i got that wrong. Also we as rl fans should be celebrating any new company who wants to be associated and invest in our wonderful sport.'"
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| Quote ="WOLRAB316"Can i just say, i really do wish people would remove their rather large chip on their shoulders when it comes to super league, is that not the league we want our team to be in, or have i got that wrong. Also we as rl fans should be celebrating any new company who wants to be associated and invest in our wonderful sport.'"
Spot on.
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| Quote ="WOLRAB316"Can i just say, i really do wish people would remove their rather large chip on their shoulders when it comes to super league, is that not the league we want our team to be in, or have i got that wrong. Also we as rl fans should be celebrating any new company who wants to be associated and invest in our wonderful sport.'"
To be fair, why could Sooper League not attract a sponsor last year, even this year, it get's confirmed just a few weeks before the new season.
We were banned from it since the 2008 season (thanks to Dick Lewis).
So even now they have done a U Turn, it's still NOT a Super League.
Must admit though, can't wait till the latter part of the season, when 2 clubs will be 'bricking it' though unlike 'us lot' they will have the opportunity to regain their place in SL the following season.
Each to their own as in how they feel about SL, I'm with Dick (Jones).
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| Well said WOLRAB.
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| If u read the comment's by the SL clubs fans on the terrace they think the titles very meanful.
Oh bless um , we've been screwed. By the RFL for years !
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| Quote ="DETROITSOUL"I bet it's a poor deal'"
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| and now Francis Cummins has ,said that personally He thinks that Promotion and relegation is a rubbish idea .course that's nowt to do with Bradfords well publicised problems eh, as far as Cummins is concerned it's the F.U. Championship Leagues
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| Quote ="peawapp"and now Francis Cummins has ,said that personally He thinks that Promotion and relegation is a rubbish idea .course that's nowt to do with Bradfords well publicised problems eh, as far as Cummins is concerned it's the F.U. Championship Leagues
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As far as I'm concerned it's FU Cummins
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| Quote ="Alan"Wonder what he'll think after they get relegated?
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| Quote ="advocatus diaboli"FU Bradford. Where is my next job coming from?'"
Or........ he may decide that P&R would then be a good thing!
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| After seeing us in action , we aren't far off the pace to play in super legue 2 ie middle 8 but the get up to standard of top eight it would take a long time and a lot of hard work , to finance a top 8 Super League team off attendance of 2000 impossible , even 3000 to 4000 what we got last time around is not possible .
Hard work in increasing the fan base would be needed after we get In The second 8 .
It's frightening the amounts of money some chairmen are tipping in !
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| They are a 'house of cards' though Lynda if they 'fall out' or die all can come tumbling down, as Leigh fans we should know that.
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| Quote ="Dick Jones"After seeing us in action , we aren't far off the pace to play in super legue 2 ie middle 8 but the get up to standard of top eight it would take a long time and a lot of hard work , to finance a top 8 Super League team off attendance of 2000 impossible , even 3000 to 4000 what we got last time around is not possible .
Hard work in increasing the fan base would be needed after we get In The second 8 .
It's frightening the amounts of money some chairmen are tipping in !'"
We averaged a little less than 5k in SL. And we were truly horrible for most of the year.
Gives me hope we can get 6k at LSV in the right circumstances, but I'm still not sure that would be enough.
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| Quote ="Michael_Ward"We averaged a little less than 5k in SL. And we were truly horrible for most of the year.
Gives me hope we can get 6k at LSV in the right circumstances, but I'm still not sure that would be enough.'"
I believe the proposed 'model' would achieve sustainability in SL, with gates of less than 6k. However, more than that would be most welcome, especially when you consider the atmosphere at LSV for the 2013 RLWC game.
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| Quote ="Alan"I believe the proposed 'model' would achieve sustainability in SL, with gates of less than 6k. However, more than that would be most welcome, especially when you consider the atmosphere at LSV for the 2013 RLWC game.'"
The previous Board prepared a buisness plan which clearly demonstrated to the RFL that we could sustain a SL team on gates of 4k at LSV. How competitive we could be on those crowds is another question but gates are not the only revenue stream for a SL club and SL or even just the opportunity to compete to get there breeds optimism, hope and is already helping us attract high profile sponsors and attract people to see games that will actually mean something. We are not the old board and have different ways of doing buisness and far more resource, cash and professional services at our disposal as a group.
As a new board we have looked at past present and future and have produced our own long term Stratergy plan which is built around sustainability but also forecasts growth and targets maximising and growing all core areas of the buisness and associated revenue streams.
Eight months in we have already succeeded in many of our initial goals and stabilised the club financially in the process.
With all due respect to 2005 from a fans perspective it was like watching a carry on film in slow motion at times and the poor facilities combined with some of the comings and goings combined with the week to week humpings still saw us average nearly 5k so while we know we can be sustainable at 4k we would not accept 4k and would set the bench mark far higher.
As a board we are content with the start we've made and the response of ten town and community so far but are under no illusions we've made a couple of jumps up the rungs of the ladder and have to carry on working hard and raising standards.
We are realistic and the new structure is right for a club like Leigh in my opinion to build steadily and resist the temptation to just go for broke as we've done in the past.
The great thing about the club now for me and it was evident Friday night is that it's transparent and everyone from the coaching staff and team to the staff and great volunteers to the board are working together and are united.
Some sad and bitter know It alls will s and wait for something to jump on to have a pop at but 99.9 % of us Leythers believe in what's happening and want the same thing!!!
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| Great post Andy, this truly reflects the ambitions and intentions of our current board of directors. As a fan i can only respect what you guys are doing for our great club and i hope our dreams come to fruition in the future.
I also agree that we should move onward and upwards slowly without busting the bank as i can foresee many clubs going for the promise land without seeing the bigger picture.
Well done guys, keep up the good work
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| Quote ="Michael_Ward"We averaged a little less than 5k in SL. And we were truly horrible for most of the year.
Gives me hope we can get 6k at LSV in the right circumstances, but I'm still not sure that would be enough.'"
Michael
I'm with you I believe with a competitive Leigh team in SL in two/ three years time we can easily achieve 5/6k as a seasons average.
I also believe that we as a club have a major advantage over any other club in the country, our unique relationship/ partnership with LSV means unlike any of the clubs that own their stadia we do not have any overheads and major costs associated with running a SL standard facility other than paying set costs which are factored into our business plan and budget.
Our strategy and plans if successful see us as a top ten club by 2017 but (and it's a big BUT) this all depends on the support we receive and will require the support of the whole community which we are working hard to engage.
As you all know I'm not the numbers man but this is a very lose interpretation of how I personally see things (very rough overview and Mike Norris is the financial wizard who produces our financial plans and forecasts) but should go some way to demonstrate what can be be achieved!!!
- 1.2M RFL money
- 900k + Estimated Gate receipts (average of say £12.50/ £13.00 x 12 home games per SL season)
- Target 500k/ 1Mil in Sponsorship, Commercial activity, Directors cash investment and other income streams such as Lottery, Centurion TV, Retail Outlet and Online Shopping, Strategic Partnerships etc.
With 3million PA revenue we can be more than just competitive in my opinion especially when you factor in we are a hotbed of RL with massive talent within the community which I'm convinced will going forward want to play for us!
Ambitious yes, realistic certainly if we really all buy in to it as a town and wider community.
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| Quote ="SRW1996"Michael
I'm with you I believe with a competitive Leigh team in SL in two/ three years time we can easily achieve 5/6k as a seasons average.
I also believe that we as a club have a major advantage over any other club in the country, our unique relationship/ partnership with LSV means unlike any of the clubs that own their stadia we do not have any overheads and major costs associated with running a SL standard facility other than paying set costs which are factored into our business plan and budget.
Our strategy and plans if successful see us as a top ten club by 2017 but (and it's a big BUT) this all depends on the support we receive and will require the support of the whole community which we are working hard to engage.
As you all know I'm not the numbers man but this is a very lose interpretation of how I personally see things (very rough overview and Mike Norris is the financial wizard who produces our financial plans and forecasts) but should go some way to demonstrate what can be be achieved!!!
- 1.2M RFL money
- =#FF0000900k + Estimated Gate receipts (average of say £12.50/ £13.00 x 12 home games per SL season) - Target 500k/ 1Mil in Sponsorship, Commercial activity, Directors cash investment and other income streams such as Lottery, Centurion TV, Retail Outlet and Online Shopping, Strategic Partnerships etc.
With 3million PA revenue we can be more than just competitive in my opinion especially when you factor in we are a hotbed of RL with massive talent within the community which I'm convinced will going forward want to play for us!
Ambitious yes, realistic certainly if we really all buy in to it as a town and wider community.'"
So, according to my maths, that would work on gates of about 6,000? (£12.50 x 12 games = £150 per person per season x 6,000 = £900k) There's the target to build towards then - and just think of the atmosphere with 6,000 Leythers and visiting fans in there!
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| Quote ="Alan"So, according to my maths, that would work on gates of about 6,000? (£12.50 x 12 games = £150 per person per season x 6,000 = £900k) There's the target to build towards then - and just think of the atmosphere with 6,000 Leythers and visiting fans in there!'"
Yes Alan and like I say as you know I'm not the numbers man I'm just demonstrating that in two/ three years time we can easily be generating income of 3million pa plus in SL.
Gate income is only part of what being in SL enables clubs to generate.
I went for 12.5/13.00 as an average.
Bottom line is we have everything in place now to be a SL club, the door is open and nothing to stop us only ourselves by not supporting it and making it happen.
Destiny is in our own hands and short term we as directors are covering any shortfalls and investing the cash needed but if we want to be a SL team long term the club needs to wash it's own face and be self sustainable so we will only spend it if we can generate it and Mike will see to that.
What also encourages me is the fact the many of the teams already up there are operating with massive losses and less than healthy as businesses while we are starting from a healthy position after all the hard work which has gone in over the last eight months.
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