The gulf between full time professionals and part time semi professional RL players was frightening. Leigh players no matter what their size and no matter what the size of the Wigan players could not make any ground in contact nor prevent Wigan players from making ground. Several players looked totally out of condition and several have regressed as players. McNally is now a pale shadow of the youngster who came into pro RL. The only player anywhere near resembling a SL player was Brierley and he has lost some of what he had in terms of inventiveness.

Leigh desparately need D/C quality SL youngsters. Spencer has done well for you but Greenwood tonight looked better than anything Leigh had too. Outside backs, Leigh need some speed and flair.

Good trolling BTW.

However I don't think you actually understand this do you.

Leigh play in a PART TIME LEAGUE with PART TIME PLAYERS, every other club is PART TIME.

Wigan play in a FULL TIME LEAGUE with FULL TIME PLAYERS, every other club is FULL TIME.

We do not need your players but say we did what you wanted and sold our soul for a handful of unproven Wigan 'starlets' , tonight would have seen us fielding less experienced players as they wouldn't be allowed to play.

May I respectfully suggest you stick to worrying about why the DW Trophy Cabinet marked 'SL Champions' has a lot of dust building up around it and leave us to worry how our club will get to what is required in our league.

We don't need any other Wgan duals, then Tom spencer

Fyldey boy, you're just a muppet.

That is the most ill informed post EVER!!!

Greenwood was far better than what Leigh had tonight. You desparately need some outside back talent. You have no speed or evasion bar Brierley.

I hope you are well. Best wishes.

Ahh so one is ok.

He only did 10 minutes in his first spell, before they substituted him!

No trolling. I leave that to others. I participate in genuine discussions.

Leigh were awful tonight. Yes they are part time and yes the League is part time but as last week showed the garbage Leigh put up is not even good enough v the leading 'professionals in a part time League. To talk about that Leigh team tonight in the same breadth as Sheffield, Featherston and Halifax is an insult to those teams.

The Leigh team tonight were an insult to some great Leigh teams of the past and we do not have to go back to 1981 and beyond. Even in 2002, Leight had class players and quality across their team. Many of the Leigh players tonight did not even look conditioned for amateur RL.

Unlike you Jenky. I am happy with my own club BUT far more conserned about the bigger picture of RL in general. Insularity and ignoring what is staring you in the face appears to be your remit sadly.

He came back on also. It was his debut and was he not better than anybody playing prop for Leigh tonight. Did he win the collision, make the hard yards, make tackles. Forget you are a Leigh fan and look at your players honestly.

IMO very few SL fringe /reserve team players who come on DR in the Championship make any impact as the step up in class is beyond them ........ A bit like us tonight .

Nope, you are a troll (a bit better than the usual average ones we get, I'll give you that) but your trolling is quite easy to see

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I'm sure as your worried about RL in general you'll agree that for Sam Tomkins to ever fulfil his true potential he must move with haste to Australia as stagnating in SL playing one sided games each week is a waste of such a talent, in fact I think Charnley should do the same.

Are you sure ? , Parker played his tripe out .

You really are off with the fairies



Any young 'un coming into a SDL team as strong as Wigan could be eased in, and look the part!

You want to read Lee Radfords piece in the Hull Daily Mail, of which, i might add, Sam Tomkins said in his Twitter account he agreed with, before you make an even BIGGER fool of yourself

No doubting his effort but apart from his try he struggled and should be retired and coaching. He was an excellent player bar some illegal challenges but his day has long since gone.

Have to agree with that Jenky , there's no point of them staying in the SL playing one sided games every week , If they want to prove their worth then they need to try their hand in the NRL , then we'll see how good they are .

Just sussed who he is, knew his mum st annes pier 1988 I know I was quick but it was cold.

Like father like son then

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/21847269 Case closed.

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/21847269 Case closed.

The DW is too big for the town. It needs 5000 less seats and the corners sorting.

It's still a tricky question.

Forget the whole 'selling your soul' argument (Which I wholeheartedly agree with, but let's forget it for a while) and look at the bigger picture.

There is an undeniable, and understandable, chasm between the level of RL played at SL and that where we are. With the best will in the world, as long as we've got PT players only, we can never match FT levels of skill and fitness.
If you took the Australian national team out of full time RL and made them work a day job before squeezing in their RL commitments, I'd fancy Wigan to have turned them over last night. Talent only gets you so far.

This is where the positives of the DC arrangement comes in. It allows us to have players who train to that level of intensity and talent, and it allows us a limited use of the scouting system that is built into professional RL sides. This in turn makes for more attractive RL, which in turn - hopefully - attracts bigger crowds, which in turn - again hopefully - allows us to invest more in the club, and eventually get big enough crowds that we can get our own full time players, and end the DC arrangement when the time is right.

That's the ideal, dream scenario.

Without, we carry on against a backdrop of annual financial panic as crowds continue to decline as by now we've seen that people will not start coming to LSV to watch 'a local team full of local players'. We've proved that now, move on. We'll never have a side again that can turn a top flight side over in the second half, no matter how much we'd like it.
In the meantime, we are seen as a feeder club for SL teams in general (as opposed to DC, where it's one team in particular), so no real change there.

We do need the DC/partnership arrangement, no matter how distasteful a taste it leaves in the mouth.

Just NOT Wigan please.....

If we had say 5 dc's they would not have been allowed to play last night nor over Easter. How would our team have been better having lost 5 of its team for a match against one of the biggest teams in the land?
I see that there is benefit for the individual players for such a system and the ability to keep all the fringe players who otherwise might play for a lower div team on a full contract basis.
I don't see the long term benefit for the club the DC visits? Unless they weren't good enough for the parent club and then there is a slight chance that some of them may, possibly, sign for the club that they played for.
I don't care that the partnership is with Wigan as tbh that's the best club to partner with as the local lads are more likely to come to us if they get dumped by the parent club. But I think its taking a massive gamble on the future of the game.
Circa 2k fans came last night it was more like 300 against the best in our division. I don't think dc's will solve the real issue of no one wants to watch championship rugby anymore. Of those that do I suspect most don't want to watch a barbarian type side every week. I don't and won't. As the fax fans sang on Sunday we sold out! for a few beans and a prayer.

Don't really want to get drawn into all this again but I still can't understand why people think someone kicked out of Wigan would then 'more likely' come to Leigh.

Perhaps Fylde Warrior should forget stating the "bleeding obvious" and concentrate his fire on the RFL for allowing such a gulf to develop between two clubs who used to compete on an equal footing by completely devaluing the Championship and the clubs in it. And don't say Wigan can do without Leigh: look at tonight's crowd and the 15000 who were there the last time Leigh were at the DW. Oh, and while we're at it we might as well blame Dr Beeching and those numpties who made Leigh part of Wigan in 1974. My chest's a lot lighter now!

www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... z2R0TkYNAc One for you Fylde Warrior the system does not work looking at the bigger picture if your able to take it in ?

www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... z2R0TkYNAc One for you Fylde Warrior the system does not work looking at the bigger picture if your able to take it in ?