www.zshare.net/audio/946933344d2815c5/ or loverugbyleague.podbean.com/2011 ... or-barton/

www.zshare.net/audio/946933344d2815c5/ or loverugbyleague.podbean.com/2011 ... or-barton/

Dave, excelent interview. I hope it will answer a few of the questions raised and give a feeling of quiet optimism.Good to hear Barrie Dale is on board and i await the debate about shares being offered for £20G

I listened to it . I really enjoyed it, good work

Very good interveiw, very good things coming out at the moment.
Just one thing that stands in our way, is money.
As Trevor said join LISA, if youve not already, or one of the groups he discussed and LISA is included in the share issue thing, LISA will get shares too if they contribute enough, so the more that join the better.

A minimum 50k a year sounds like a nice figure to be a share holder in the new leigh centurions.

Dave,

As always, superb work.

It's great to have you on board with the communications group.

Cheers,

Alan.

Maybe, but didn't Trevor quote £20k?

Get in there Trevor







With all the community working together we have a great future, at last a fans/business partnership to make our club great again.

C'mon Leythers get on board and enjoy being part of something that will be very special

sorry alan i must have missed that bit.
that seems low to me,you'll get people/organisations not needing to work very hard and yet they'll have a say in how the club is run.
I can see it now Alan in another two/three years half a dozen people sat in comfy chairs round a big table,slapping each other on the back and saying not bad this for doing nowt.

£20k every year is how I understand it, thats a fair figure for an individual to lose every year.

then surely that individual should pool his resourses with others to form a group.

It would work for a year or two to keep us going , not sustainable long term , ultimately the club has to become a true business ( or as close to one as possible )

If we set the target to remain a charity , then a charity we will remain , and the same problems will come back to haunt us again

Throughout the interview Trevor stressed the phrase 'self sustaining'. That must be the way it has to be.

My post was in response to posts on here , not Trevors interview , I know he understands the long term situation

Realise that Steve. I was just re-inforcing what you said.

The problem is Alan , that some people seem to think that donations are self sustaining , when in fact they are no different to having a sugar daddy , any money that is not genuinely ' earned ' is donation and is not sustainable long term

Part of the LISA drive for new members was that it was short term , ie till the end of next season , similarily with the Corporate Club , eventually companies might not be in a position to donate , or the owners choose not to

And one thing is for sure , if you have a genuinely sustainable club , you become much more attractive to investement , quite simply , that is the situation at Widnes , Steve O Connor was primarily a football fan , but the numbers needed to join that ' Circus ' are obviously ridiculous , but the local RL team with enough income to almost break even was a much more attractive proposition

It is total stupidity to plan to have a successful club at this level and expect not to need income to be externally topped up.
If we simply want a bunch of not good enoughs playing in the strip on a Sunday afternoon in C1 then I agree with your post, if thats the case then let it die now.
We should be ambitious and plan to meet that ambition from generated revenues, we should also be prudent enough to have external income in place to cover shortfalls.
We should be able to run at the top of this tier losing no more than £100k pa, if we reach a GF or NRC then that is dramatically reduced.

Is that not where we are now? with a loss of c£100k but with no one to top it up?

That IS the current issue, probably will be again next year and therefore highlights the necessity to be totally self sustaining.

I understand AT's charity is in 7 figures over recent years, so the deficit was more like 300k pa .

The cuts made are getting it more like the 100k and that should be sustainable.

Does the £100k black hole include the players wages due on friday or were they paid and are not included now. If they were n't paid there must be some very angry and disillusioned players who may possibly be looking for legal redress. Lets hope they were paid.

Good interview that and re-assuring that the determination is there and things are happening. Thanks Dave.


Also I would think the aim of being self sufficient should always be the ultimate aim. In times of crisis the local community and fans do rally round, but as time goes by that support of hard earned monies donated dwindles as confidence starts to rise again.

Agreed. We can't just get over this initial huge hurdle relying on donations and then think the jobs done.

You really need to do one, as a Sheffield fan you couldn't even be ar$ed to go to the GF

The wonders of a Blackberry! You dont need to be at home to post!
But seriously the question remains, re going into administration, were the players paid their wages on Friday. If they were n't paid then presumably this is a major concern for Barton and the Directors. This is before they even think about next year.

Yes it is , so what do you want us to do ?