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| this is a typical nasty trick pulled by the Tories they never ever change. attack the weak and the defenceless,how Cameron and Judas Clegg can sleep at night I just dont know.those poor people who are claiming this pittance will now be under enormous stress thanks to these nasty people I feel sorry for anyone who is ill or old with these barstewards in power
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| I think its more aimed towards the scrotes who claim it and there is nothing wrong with them!
I'm not a Tory supporter but I fully back this!
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| Bit of a blinkered view there pea. Its aimed at the false claimants of which there are plenty, some will be found and some won't, but you can guarantee the tabloids will soon be running stories of unfair removal of benefits. Thats if they have time to give interviews inbetween the football matches and dance clubs
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| Quote ="peawapp"this is a typical nasty trick pulled by the Tories they never ever change. attack the weak and the defenceless,how Cameron and Judas Clegg can sleep at night I just dont know.those poor people who are claiming this pittance will now be under enormous stress thanks to these nasty people I feel sorry for anyone who is ill or old with these barstewards in power'"
I guess you have to start somewhere and the genuine claimants will ultimately be unaffected but as you say it will cause them stress worrying about it - no doubt one or 2 genuine claimants will get stung in the cuts. However, there is clearly a need to have a good look at the benefits system as the numbers of claimants that you see with seemingly nothing wrong with them and who have far more luxuries than your average working man is beyond a joke.
What is your solution Peawapp?
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| ...and theres me thinking you would just give everything to them for free
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| now to be serious for a minute I'm thinking of a way to find one of em an easy job so when the L.S.V.find and dismiss the steward who verbally abused that poor lady who wrote to the reporter last week they can take his place cos they only have to be half fit to do that job
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| Well, it was almost a minute
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| I am not a Con-Demed fan either but the fact that they are going to make it that people will not be better off claiming than working has to be a good thing as long as its aimed at those that are work shy .The thing that annoys me immensely is those that know how to work the system and end up being better off than the hard working people ie when on benefits you don't pay for anything unlike people that work who usually pay for all the services ,there's steam coming out of my ears as i type What i don't understand however is the fact that a person earning over 42,000 will not be able to get child benefit but if 2 people from same family earn say 38,000 each meaning 76,000 coming into the household they can
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| The cost involved in gathering everyones salaries and constant changes would be a costly adminstrative nightmare, which would make it a waste of time. The number of families this will affect 'unfairly' I would say is very very small, and it has already been stated that some other help would be forthcoming to stay at home mums.
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| Quote ="peawapp"that's all very well but there aren't any jobs for the people who will get kicked off to take are there cos they have all been taken by the bloody poles
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There are people who try very hard to get a job and then there are those that have no intention whatsoever of going to work and its these people who need a very large and very hard kick up the ar@e ,too many folk know how to cheat their way onto incapacity benefit so kick um off it i say ,if they are fit for work ,its amazing how the walking stick comes out when they are getting a revue ,its all too easy to kid
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| Quote ="peawapp"now to be serious for a minute I'm thinking of a way to find one of em an easy job so when the L.S.V.find and dismiss the steward who verbally abused that poor lady who wrote to the reporter last week they can take his place cos they only have to be half fit to do that job
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According to her.... Be careful of making libellous statements Lally.
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| I'm no Tory (or Lib Dem either), but so far I am liking what they are trying to do so far tbh.
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| Good on em. Get after the lazy scrotes that play the system.
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| I know a few who claim disability benefit and there`s nowt wrong with em......why should these people get extra money and sit on their backsides while others have to work, the people who are claiming the top benefits (fraudulently) are usually better off than people who work their knackers off for a living.
Catch em and make em repay all the extra money they have had over the years I say.
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| Quote ="leytherjay"I know a few who claim disability benefit and there`s nowt wrong with em......why should these people get extra money and sit on their backsides while others have to work, the people who are claiming the top benefits (fraudulently) are usually better off than people who work their knackers off for a living.
Catch em and make em repay all the extra money they have had over the years I say.'"
Well contact the relevant agency and let them investigate their claims.
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| Quote ="DemonUK"The cost involved in gathering everyones salaries and constant changes would be a costly adminstrative nightmare, which would make it a waste of time. The number of families this will affect 'unfairly' I would say is very very small, and it has already been stated that some other help would be forthcoming to stay at home mums.'"
But they're supposed to be bringing in a universal credit for benefits, so surely it could come under that.
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| the guy next to me has not worked in TWENTY years, claims disability, yet has built an extension on to his house, a brick garage and a wooden shed.....all done with his own bare hands.
he does his main shop in the local newsagent, paying over the odds for everything, including his 200 ciggies a week.
the locals despise him, have grassed him up many times, yet he's still extracting the xxxx, and his son has just left school, and knows all the dodges already
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| Quote ="Leeeigh Leeeigh"I'm no Tory (or Lib Dem either), but so far I am liking what they are trying to do so far tbh.'"
Exactly the same view as myself. At least they are listening to what people want from the government.
I was spitting blood a couple of years back when I was in Quality Save and I heard two scrotes with a million kids each talking and one said to the other 'I can't wait for my child beefits this month, i've got my tax and insurance for the Land Rover up this month and I will be able to go out at the weekend'.
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| Quote ="leythdave"According to her.... Be careful of making libellous statements Lally.
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| Quote ="mr. chairman"i'm ill and old peawap but i still work 6 days a week. some people take the pi** you have to admit'"
tha not as ill or as old as me though
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| Quote ="jonny the leyther"Exactly the same view as myself. At least they are listening to what people want from the government.
I was spitting blood a couple of years back when I was in Quality Save and I heard two scrotes with a million kids each talking and one said to the other 'I can't wait for my child beefits this month, i've got my tax and insurance for the Land Rover up this month and I will be able to go out at the weekend'.'"
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| Quote ="Leeeigh Leeeigh"I'm no Tory (or Lib Dem either), but so far I am liking what they are trying to do so far tbh.'"
I would be somewhat more convinced if they pledged a two-pronged attack. As well as cutting benefits for the work-shy, they made as much effort at clawing back some of the £120 Billion that the Revenue is not getting from those who (legally or illegally) avoid paying income tax...... but as this practice is inextricably linked with Tory party funding I won't be holding my breath!!
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| Higher rated PAYE will be fleeced next year, so its not just a one way street. Self employed will hopefully have loop holes removed soon but the simple facts are the last government was not interested in nailing the scroungers who play the system (the latest one is getting their kids diagnosed with behaviour illness) or the immigration problem.
We cannot afford the drain of the public spend levels, lets hope they hit the rogues and not the genuine needy. We have created a section of society who dont understand work ethics, this government MUST change that by making that section of society get out what they put in, because that section breed more than the grafters which gives a far bigger problem in years to come if not tackled now.
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