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| During half time in the GF last night the police put a notce up on the big screen asking for information concerning a serious assault after or maybe before the Championship grand final. It was the first I have heard about this anyone else know anything?
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| It was after the GF...... a Fax fan is in Hospital and WAS on life support I got told after being assaulted after the game.
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| On his way back to the coach. Still in a coma
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| Quote ="TV BOY"During half time in the GF last night the police put a notce up on the big screen asking for information concerning a serious assault after or maybe before the Championship grand final. It was the first I have heard about this anyone else know anything?'"
I posted a link last sunday from warrington guardian, I think it`s on the " who`s going to the real GF thread"
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| All on the Fax board too.
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| I hope he pulls through plus i know it doesn't make any difference to him and his family but i hope its not a rugby fan
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| Quote ="itsatry!"I hope he pulls through plus i know it doesn't make any difference to him and his family but i hope its not a rugby fan'"
Fev had a lot of ' day trippers ' there last week
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| Whoever it was should hang their head in shame, we don't need that associated with our game.
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| Jesus christ what the bloody hells going on. These idiots need to be found and fast. They should be banned from every, I mean every game of RL for life. I hope the person who is injured makes a full recovery and quickly.
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| Quote ="TV BOY"Jesus christ what the bloody hells going on. These idiots need to be found and fast. They should be banned from every, I mean every game of RL for life. I hope the person who is injured makes a full recovery and quickly.'"
Never mind being banned from rugby, they should be spending a considerable time at Her Majesty's Pleasure.
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| apparently there was a lot of bother around the ground
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| I was stood with my mates - and just in front of Starbug, Ian C Frank etc. There was many who were there on Sunday I cannot recall having seen before in my life!
There has been so much emotive sheite written about the incident on various fora I've been reluctant to respond. Fev has it's attached numpties - someone has got hurt. I saw and felt a lot of things that were very wrong (from both sets of fans) on Sunday but as it's a Fax lad who got hurt there is no reflection on any aspect of Fax fans behaviour, the societal tolerance, reasons etc - just total condemnation of Fev fans - i.e. we're all scum bags etc!!!
I will NOT stop watching Fev!! I will NEVER support any hooligan element and i WILL assist in any way possible to identify the aggressor that has left a man fighting for his life! But for me and the majority of Fev fans it's sickening to hear ourselves being branded this way and sickening to see a man beaten by someone allegedly following my team and indirectly associating me with that behaviour!
What I saw on Sunday - again from both sets - was antagonism, baiting, tribalism, goading, threatening etc! Those who have met me will know I am an objective soul NOT prone to exaggeration or misrepresentation. I try to offer a balanced view when possible. Some in the Fev crowd (decency forbids me calling tjhem fans) were a disgrace! But likewise, so were some from Fax - but it's only Fev fans attracting the criticism!!!
I had to get that off my chest! A little lengthy but therapeutic! "Leigh RLFC Councelling service"!!!!
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| RFF,
I sympathise with you and all the other decent Fev fans. Leigh have had enough problems in the past with a few idiots. Unfortunately then the whole of the Leigh fan base get blamed and shares the disgrace. You have had a fantastic season. Good luck for next season. Continue to enjoy your rugby. You and all other decent fans will always be welcome at Leigh, as I know we will be welcomed at Fev
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| You are quite right and I have said as much on the Fax board.
It is a sad reflection that in our league for important games' due to usually a small police presence' there are people who go along with (no actual interest in the on field game) an intent to cause trouble.
They are sad foolish individuals who are going nowhere. They are miserable moronic idiots with a poor shelf life.
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| Quote ="Rotherham Fev Fan"I was stood with my mates - and just in front of Starbug, Ian C Frank etc. There was many who were there on Sunday I cannot recall having seen before in my life!
There has been so much emotive sheite written about the incident on various fora I've been reluctant to respond. Fev has it's attached numpties - someone has got hurt. I saw and felt a lot of things that were very wrong (from both sets of fans) on Sunday but as it's a Fax lad who got hurt there is no reflection on any aspect of Fax fans behaviour, the societal tolerance, reasons etc - just total condemnation of Fev fans - i.e. we're all scum bags etc!!!
I will NOT stop watching Fev!! I will NEVER support any hooligan element and i WILL assist in any way possible to identify the aggressor that has left a man fighting for his life! But for me and the majority of Fev fans it's sickening to hear ourselves being branded this way and sickening to see a man beaten by someone allegedly following my team and indirectly associating me with that behaviour!
What I saw on Sunday - again from both sets - was antagonism, baiting, tribalism, goading, threatening etc! Those who have met me will know I am an objective soul NOT prone to exaggeration or misrepresentation. I try to offer a balanced view when possible. Some in the Fev crowd (decency forbids me calling tjhem fans) were a disgrace! But likewise, so were some from Fax - but it's only Fev fans attracting the criticism!!!
I had to get that off my chest! A little lengthy but therapeutic! "Leigh RLFC Councelling service"!!!!'"
You are spot on mate, we met you, a really nice bloke, i also personally spoke to a lot of Fev fans on the day, young and old and found them all fine people, as you say you shouldn't tar every Fev fan with the same brush its just a few idiots that spoil it for the decent RL fans.
Hope to meet up again for a pint and a chat next season mate, take care.
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| Quote ="Rotherham Fev Fan"I was stood with my mates - and just in front of Starbug, Ian C Frank etc. There was many who were there on Sunday I cannot recall having seen before in my life!
There has been so much emotive sheite written about the incident on various fora I've been reluctant to respond. Fev has it's attached numpties - someone has got hurt. I saw and felt a lot of things that were very wrong (from both sets of fans) on Sunday but as it's a Fax lad who got hurt there is no reflection on any aspect of Fax fans behaviour, the societal tolerance, reasons etc - just total condemnation of Fev fans - i.e. we're all scum bags etc!!!
I will NOT stop watching Fev!! I will NEVER support any hooligan element and i WILL assist in any way possible to identify the aggressor that has left a man fighting for his life! But for me and the majority of Fev fans it's sickening to hear ourselves being branded this way and sickening to see a man beaten by someone allegedly following my team and indirectly associating me with that behaviour!
What I saw on Sunday - again from both sets - was antagonism, baiting, tribalism, goading, threatening etc! Those who have met me will know I am an objective soul NOT prone to exaggeration or misrepresentation. I try to offer a balanced view when possible. Some in the Fev crowd (decency forbids me calling tjhem fans) were a disgrace! But likewise, so were some from Fax - but it's only Fev fans attracting the criticism!!!
I had to get that off my chest! A little lengthy but therapeutic! "Leigh RLFC Councelling service"!!!!'"
Most folk with any intellegence will fully understand your position and fair plays to you for sticking your head above the parapet.
However there is a lot of emotion involved from the Fax people with it and rarely does rationaility meet with it. I can fully understand both situations.
What would help the Fev cause is if their fans spent as much time in trying to find the attacker rather than defend the clubs name by passing him off as an unknown lout on a daytrip.
The gang in question might not be regulars at POR but one thing is for sure, there will be some good decent Fev fans who know who they are by some kind of association, beit drinking in the same pub, playing rugby with them, going to school etc. Someone knows and as there hasn't been an arrest yet, that someone hasn't made much of an effort.
A lot of Leigh fans will know exactly who our day trippers are and who is likely to be in the thick of it if there is bother, even if it's such and such a lot from such and such a pub. I don't for one minute think Fev are any different. This mob of Fev lads didnt land from the Moon, they are from your area and it's not huge, even if you throw the likes of Pontefract or Normanton into the mix.
Until someone from Fev stands up and gives some names, the fans name will be in the shadows as far as your Fax counterparts are concerned.
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| The RFL must take some blame for this, having 3 GF's on one day at one venue just asks for trouble from some elements who think its their god given right to over indulge on alcoholic drink, that plus it devalues the games as surely each divisional GF is worthy of their own 'big day'. No club can point the finger at any other as all have their loutish element, which is worsened by the bandwaggoners.
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| Quote ="FredParky"The RFL must take some blame for this, having 3 GF's on one day at one venue just asks for trouble from some elements who think its their god given right to over indulge on alcoholic drink, that plus it devalues the games as surely each divisional GF is worthy of their own 'big day'. No club can point the finger at any other as all have their loutish element, which is worsened by the bandwaggoners.'"
Do you know Fred, you have posted almost verbatim my comments to a mate of mine when we were discussing the day!
A 5.30 K.O. giving everyone to get tanked up???? No, I'm with youFred - the RFL need to examine the timing and itinerary for finals day - if indeed we are to persevere with all the finals played on one day!
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| Quote ="FredParky"The RFL must take some blame for this, having 3 GF's on one day at one venue just asks for trouble from some elements who think its their god given right to over indulge on alcoholic drink, that plus it devalues the games as surely each divisional GF is worthy of their own 'big day'. No club can point the finger at any other as all have their loutish element, which is worsened by the bandwaggoners.'"
So once again the mass majority of well behaved fans have to lose out because of one or two idiots.
Can't agree with this.
Maybe they do need to start the first game earlier and shift the other games back down into the afternoon but it is a fantastic day whether you are there with one of the clubs taking part or just there as a neutral fan.
Having been to the day as both I don't think it devalues the comp at all to have all three games on the same day. It's terrific and all adds to the festival atmosphere. I agree something needs to be done and the stewarding and policing after the game should be looked at if both sets of fans were allowed to congregate in the same area.
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| Typically the RFL are called into question despite using a well tried formula that works and goes down well with the fans. There will always be incidents of this nature, fortunately very seldom are they so serious. This incident was perpetrated by one gobbin, not the police, not the stewards and certainly not the RFL.
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| Yes it worked very well in the past (like a lot of things in the sport that have been changed) but didn't then, so it must be looked at, if you bother to actually read whats there I call into question the RFL not paying enough respect to the divisions or the teams to 'lump' all three GF's into one day, why do the SLE and RFL not have the Academy GF's on the same day as the SLE GF, they used to but reviewed it as it didn't work, if you don't move forward you die its that simple - well it is to some.
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| its more a society problem than any fault of thr rfl........
these "scrotes" invariably have "previous" for this sort of thing, and usually get a slapped wrist, and maybe a bit of community service.
the 3 g/f 's in a day is a tremendous spectacle for the average well behaved fan, i'm sure york v oldham, with all due respect, wouldn't have generated a decent crowd as a stand alone fixture.
tackle the issues more severely, not move the goalposts for people who know how to behave.
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| I Went to the SL GF on Sat, saw quite a few of drunks but real bother and there was £75000 there, although that being a 6 o clock KO, means theres more chance of fans being tanked up.
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| Quote ="Dick Jones"I Went to the SL GF on Sat, saw quite a few of drunks but real bother and there was £75000 there, although that being a 6 o clock KO, means theres more chance of fans being tanked up.'"
What was that Lynda?
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| To be fair I did not think she had that many.
I was in the pub from 1-15pm and it was a very enjoyable day out. On balance I agree with posters who see nothing wrong with the evening kick offs.
We will not solve the problem of nasty people who cannot hold their drink by doing that. They would just drink at home and still turn up out of control.
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