so ive been on the rum for a bad chest but heres whats gonna happen.

Wakefield obviously have given up any hope of retaining their SL place by signing crap players and not paying their bills thats pretty obvious.

Widnes to go up as a result of a very rich benefactor simple as that.

Now then all this ticking boxes bull*hit meens nowt!! Think about it why should a club have to tick a playing box when the result of being promoted is that you fire off the majority of yer squad we have seen this as fact ourselves.


So the RFL WILL promote Leigh Centurions along with Widnes or just afer to balance things out! No clubs with "old" stadiums will be in SL and as we have to most SKy friendly ground around we will be there forgat all the other logic crap i'm telling you!!!

Keep off the rum for starters...........

Don't come back to me apologisng and admitting your wrong i won't want to know!!

To be fair under the current criteria only Widnes meet them.I have stated many times my opinion that the criterion are risky for the pro game.

Kick Wakefield out they will never get a new ground. Kick Cas out too same thing. Kick Salford out when everyone knows they ARE getting a new ground is it sensible in view of their bumper crowds ? Oh Quins fab ground great history despite their several name/ground changes.

Rum or not they must drink bottles of the stuff at the RFL.

Wakefield will prosper in the Championship.

Glad I drink Whiskey

Woods rum gives you wings!

I had every faith in Frank seeing sense he drinks lambrini at 7am on the strrets of salford i've seen him they all do it Chapel Street end!!!!

Being someone who likes the odd flutter I doubt I`ll need to apologise........

Well i aint gonna push it but you will see!!!!

Ok Nostradamus.....

Only time I am up at 7am is for a wee. It will happen to you sooner than you think.

Good reply Frank



Lesson Learned? Don't mess with your elders

To be fair ?? These will be the criteria that were changed at the end of the season so that only Widnes met them. Criteria that will be changed again when it siuts the RL to fast track whatever poorly supported wacky foregn team into the promised land of SL.

...because Widnes are a wacky foreign team? I know they talk funny, but that's going a bit far... And of course there is no RL played in the South of France PMSL etc

It is comments like these I understand the least. Given that the new criteria (if they are new) are based on turnover, crowds, league positions et al, if Widnes are the only club which meet them, it must be because we are the best club to go up. Don't have a go at us because you don't like licensing, we didn't bring it in. But given that nobody has said we are going up but everyone assumes so because we meet the current criteria the best, what are you moaning about? You have lower crowds, you have no youth, you don't have the turnover and lest we forget, you should have been relegated last season, have not made one single final and should be in no position to whinge considering. I can understand today's winner lamenting the fact that they'd be getting promoted now (although who knows what the table would have looked like if we were under those rules?) but you? You should be hopeful we do make it as opposed to Toulouse. It shows you the RFL on this one case at least are true to their word and you will know what you have to have achieved next time. And as for the stab about our backer, we had the best crowds and a fully functional youth setup (not to mention making finals regularly) under the old backer. It wasn't our fault he was a crook. We've been rewarded with the backer we deserved.

Honestly, when the criteria are based on such fundamental things and we beat everyone on every single front how can anyone moan that they are suited to us? Should the crowds criteria be for clubs greater than 1,500 but no greater than 2,250?

Get over it guys. Don't hate the player, hate the game.

Fax shot themselves in the foot with their published final game attendance a week or so after the ave attendance criteria was made public. IMO this was just two fingers to the RFL. I think never a truer word spoken than your 'hate the game'

Tbf Halifax chairman has mentioned the 2,500 figure for months now so it clearly wasn't new... Though they would of been clever to fudge 2/3 attendances rather than just one as would be far less obvious!

I do not accept Widnes meet all the criteria.

One of them is that a club should not have had an insolvency event in the last three seasons.Cynically Widnes had such an event the day after the grand final.

You are bang wrong. Your personal opinion on the matter is irrelevant. We have brand new owners now and have been fully solvent throughout the current license period. Our current owner offered to guarantee our solvency with a bond of £1m before the previous ones were awarded.

We have already been punished for that insolvency. TWICE. It kept us out last time, and we were also docked points for it. Only someone desperate would hold it against us now especially considering our current financial state.

Don't you mean SOC's financial state

This is pretty obviously linked but with the salary cap what it is and the crowds what they are it's no doubt we would be in good health with any competent owner at the helm.

As your accounts prove, are the detailed accounts out yet? Theres 31 other RL club chairmen looking to find out how to make 40% profit on turnover

I'm sure you will be there to provide us with a blow by blow account.

Not qualified to do that Chris. However from reading the various boards there are a few people waiting to do just that. Either way there is no point, SOC is not a millionaire for nothing, and he certainly wouldn't fudge accounts that were available for public consumption now would he.

You will be in SL, and as someone posted elsewhere you will have far more to worry about than us lot whinging about the game in general. Can't wait for the next 4 years of glorified friendlies

Get over it you bitter buggers... You had a worse season then us really so shut ya traps stop moaning about SL and get a grip yourselves!

My opinion is based on the criteria as set down by the rl.Why wait til after GF?Any dubious offer by your owner and your current smoke and mirrors financial state is irrelevant.