Who do you think is to blame...????

I don't think you can put the blame on one in particular, yes the coach needs to set a good game plane, set pieces etc but once they step on the pitch the players need to perform and not a lot more the coach can do other than the half tim talk!!

We need t face facts the team has been put together for the future we are not in the postion were we can expect to beat most teams like a few years ago, we have average players who at the minute are playing badly!

good point personally i think the lads are doing great youngish team like u sed building for the future...... just silly mistakes hurting us but things will come good in time

Didnt go today (obviously).............but the thing that I`ve noticed so far is that all the oposition teams are doing is feeding of our mistakes. This is what as cost us the games that we`ve lost and the points we`ve conceded when we have won.
We have a team of young local lads who will come good given time.........after all we are building for the future....give the lads time cos we aint far off the mark, and with the addition of a couple experianced players we will come good later in the season.

Stewart, Watson, Donlan, Hobson, Alstead, Madden,

young?

The others aren't young in rugby terms - 17/18yrs old are youngsters but ours are a couple of years older - they will not get much better now.

A few maybe eg Morty but those that do will be snapped up by SL or better Championship sides. Let's not kid ourselves.

...in Championship 1. In all honesty if we continue like this thats where we will end up.

Maybe we need a younger coach with fresher more up to date ideas. I've nothing against NK but I feel our style of rugby is very stale & predictable.

I think the problem lies at the Top ,many of the fans,myself included saw Mr Thomas as the great white knight, but it has not happened ,i feel we need new Directors,with go forward ,ideas ,we have have a good stadium ,decent fans ,and i hope we are not made laughing stock ,on thursday ,we could go into freefall now,we are goinglong periods without scoring ,we are devoid of ideas .

we have a fantastic stadium and we have the team we can afford.
no individual club director or chairman is going to throw money into a bottomless pit.
if the fans turn up and put cash into the club, we will have a more successful team.

there is nothing wrong with the coach.

Yet 2 weeks ago when we beat Widnes away we were 'on the right path' and everything was rosy. Were Widnes that bad then? We have to face facts, we don't have the money to spend on better players. I'm as frustrated as everyone. As for new investment, in the current climate thats very unlikely to happen. We have to persevere with youth and maybe pick up one or two players along the way if we can. Sacking NK is not the answer, besides that would cost us money we can ill afford to waste.

Well that really is where the problem is, you have to be congratulated for bringing youngsters on and building a future team with them but they also need mentoring.They need a few good quality older end to learn from and I think the signing of say the likes of Hobson and the like are not just good enough anymore.

I blame Richie Mathers

these lads played some very good rugby earlier this season so what has changed?

They have played no rugby all season and back end of last, if we were entertained and had the same results we would be singing their praises and looking forward to the future.
We are simply bored with the skill levels and garbage on show.

But are we getting the effort? i say we are but if the players aren't good enough what do we do??????????

I dont disagree, I also feel some players have more to offer if used to their strengths.
Anyway been told the 6 is here this week, lets hope he is in on Thursday.

Good news! (if he's any good!) Given the current state of affairs, are we likely to hear if he's arrived?

we can keep calling our backs all day but they are not been given the chance to play attacking rugby you can count on one hand the amount of ball centres donlan and reay get in open play the only time the backs get the ball is from acting halfback if kelly cant see this then its time for him to go we need a standoff urgently to bring the backs into play our fitness levels are worst in league mort can be a good player but a fullback he is not never in the right place in defence donlan maybe reay who was wigans reserve fullback need to play here

What i gather from some peeps on here is that when we lose its because we have played cr@p, when we win its because the opposition has played cr@p or both teams are cr@p what about giving the lads a break

I agree with you itsatry.

the " head in the sand" mentality doesn't do anyone any good though, does it??

Just agreeing, because I too have sensed that whenever Leigh have a good win, certain people, often the fans of teams who play you, claim that they have had a particularly bad day and that Leigh are rubbish. I personally feel that you should judge each game individually and on its merits. I do not buy that every time Leigh win it is because the opposition are rubbish or have had a bad day. Head in sand. Not sure what you mean. Yesterday Leigh were well beaten. Nobody could argue, but for example, at Widnes, I do feel that it was hinted that Widnes were suddenly rubbish and I cannot agree with that. Most teams will have their good and bad days this season. Constructive criticism is great and objective viewing of a game and when a team has played poorly they need to admit it and try and improve for the next game. If you do not admit your weaknesses you will never move on and get better. However, by the same token, if your team plays well and gets a good result, it is not always because the opposition were rubbish. There is nothing wrong in acknowledging this.

Not sure about that - we outlasted Widnes, who are a full-time team. What hasn't done us any favours, as part-timers, is three games in nine days, with a long journey inbetween. Having to play again on Thursday is a totally unfair imposition by the RFL/Sky.

Both need to shoulder the responsibilities for the results.

Players playing dumb rugby, gifting possession and territory to the opposition with mistakes, poor tackling and giving away cheap penalties.

Coach making strange selections and timing of substitutions and dour game plan.