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Just hope the gob3 doesn't get his own way

I think the idea is to have two divisions of ten. Bring back P&R, theres a thread on the VT about it.

widnes wouldnt get their guaranteed promotion haha , it does seem a bit idiotic to be honest. Do you think it would kill out league or make it even more competetive?

if it did happen the franchise shiiite would have to be scrapped

Think there is a degree of mileage in it as it'd hopefully drag standards up in our league and might even mean promotion and relegation between the two as I'm sure four of the clubs won't be keen on voting themselves out of the league!

and they cant just change the set up now! not half way through , could you imagine the stick they would get







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Smith believes it could lead to bigger crowds. Possibly, but would it lead to an overall larger total attendance?

10,000 x 13 home games = 130,000 total
You would be looking at boosting your gates to 14,500 to achieve that total attendance from nine games.

On the other hand, you could have six teams:
Warrington, Wigan, Saints.
Bradford, Leeds, Huddersfield.

Just look at the local derbies there, if they played each other 4 times!!

you could add Hull and Hull Kr in there! thats another entertaining derby game

I agree with him because if his idea is adopted franchising would have to be scrapped and p & r brought back.

The Championship would benefit and is particularly good news for clubs like our own with ambitions to reach the top flight.

The way things are at the moment our professional game is dying a slow death. I say slow but the collapse will come quick once the lingering part of this daft experiment is over.

I'd sooner cut smiths throat

How come no bugger down under as snapped him up......thought so

I agree that two divisions should be the way to go. There are a lot of quality facilities outside super league now and a number of clubs in super league who've sat on their backsides too long. However, they will never make the drastic changes they would need, especially under the present system so two divisions is the best option. They should still, have minimum standards for the top division however and a realistic salary cap in the second division. Trying to buy promotion is what has damaged too many in the best, most recently Widnes.

two divisions of 10, based on 3 year franchises. one up one down between those divisions. 5 team play-off to GF in each division to determine champions/promoted side.
return of county cups as u23-style comp, and to include teams outside top 10
Keep Northern rail for clubs outside top 10.
move entire game to summer
create pyramid below the top 2 divisions that allows P&R from NW Counties Division Six right up to National conference (but with facilities & management criteria at various stages).
Do away with the whole concept of the 'amateur' game (it doesn't exist in football or rugby union or cricket, or in the Ozzie leagues).
add in a festival nines programme of three or four events, as union has done with sevens, as our 'Twenty20' version of the game.

I have advocated 2 divisions of 10 for many years, I just thought it would be too logical for SL.
Better games for the elite more FT clubs and an increased player pool with a logical pathway to the elite

it's not so long ago Warrington were one of those 'weaker' teams, despite spending a $hit load of money. The Tottenham Hotspur of Rugby League

Hope we make the top 20.

I think Smith is just telling the RFL that expansion is not working, they want to get rid of the French, Celts and London `cos they don`t bring their own fans. Well we don`t want them back either down with us so they can stop where they jolly well are.

but you've named the only three clubs that cannot be evicted from SLE.

The top division should have sixteen teams and no playoffs. Thirty games.

I would go for two divisions of ten. Think our sport definately needs P&R to survive. Franchising needs to go asap IMO. Two divisions of ten would create a more competitive top level and something for those outside that to strive for. I have a feeling this would make too much sense for those tools at Red Hall though!

To be honest i've been a bit torn on this subject. But the truth of the matter is that SL clubs need to play enough games to break even. P&R is in place, it's just done with a lot of control, for their lack of judgement you can't say that the RFL havn't got the best for the game in mind.

So the Top Div would be IMHO

Saints
Leeds
Wire
PIes
Hudds
Cats
Bradford
LOndon
Crucsaders
Hull

2nd Div

HullKR
Wakey
Cas
Fev
Halifax
Barrow
Salford
Widnes
Leigh
Batley

Championship

Whitehaven
Worky
Swinton
Scorpions
Oldham
Rochdale
York
Hunslet
Sheffield
Doncaster
LONDN SKOLARS
etc


TV monies to be split say half to div one then out of the remaining split 2 thirds to Div 2 and rest split between the rest of clubs.

they would put hull and hull kr together if they want to attract a crowd, take london out!!

If you look on the London forum Ste, a Quins fan had a go at Leigh for their crowds! Saying we get 3 figure crowds?

But they are sufferners Jonny a 3 figure crowd is a good one for them.

Why would clubs in SL willingly give up a chunk of their TV money to give to other clubs. It will never happen unless RFL convinced Sky to give a lot more money by selling such an idea. Similar to how they sold the playoff concept to Sky in early days of SL.
Personally I prefer a long term aim of making SL bigger rather than reducing it in short term as this is step backwards.

I think a bit of consolidation would be good for RL. It seems we change everything every year or two.