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| Quote ="Saddened!"The technique itself is banned. You aren't allowed to spear your bodyweight at the ball carriers legs, ban him for that and the clear intent. They acknowledge the intent and the danger to the ball carrier and still decide to let him off. Even if they decide they can't ban him due to sticking religiously to the framework, just issue him a warning not to tackle like that. The puerile, childish reponses from the usual suspects on here just show how bitter some of you are towards Saints. It's hilarious when it's a Saints player out of the game for 9 months+ and spending 4 months struggling to walk, with no date for a return still. If it's Hayes' knee he points backwards or Ashton's or Lindop's career he ends? I suspect you won't find it as funny then.
The fact he's attempting to do it again is bad enough, why should they wait until he's disabled someone or ruined a second career before acting? Given the context as well, his first involvement against Saints since he injured four players in one game with it, and he goes straight for the knee of another player? It's odd that it's allowed in an age where the RFL is supposedly working to improve player welfare. Your opinions on it would do a 180 very quickly if it wasn't Saints, or if it was Saints tackling like that.'"
The key to this is where the contact was made, that will influence the number of games a player receives. A high tackle that hits the shoulder first will get less games than one which contacts the head directly.
The technique is banned for contact below the knee, If he injured a Warrington player with a tackle that was on or below the knee I would agree I’d be angry. Fact is he hit above the knee. I totally agree a tackle that endangers the knee joint should be taken out of the game - and it’s been outlawed. If there are injuries occurring from similar tackles where contact is ‘just above the knee’ then they should review the guidelines again.
At no point would I think it’s hilarious any player was out of the game for any period of time.
He was warned, he was given an in game yellow and a grade A - which I think impacts future suspensions. If he carries on tackling like that he’s going to cop a long ban, but until he does there isn’t much that can be done other than the grade A he was given.
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| Wow Sad One can’t half wang on, I’ve seen shorter solicitors’ letters.
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| There is no need for dangerous play of any kind & the RFL should be ruthless in policing what goes on on the pitch.
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| Expect Saints will appeal, think Ashworth’s is harsh.
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| Quote ="karetaker"Expect Saints will appeal, think Ashworth’s is harsh.'"
Expect another "War& Peace" post from Saddened explaining why Percival has been victimised by being suspended and shouldn`t have been sent-off.
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| Quote ="karetaker"Expect Saints will appeal, think Ashworth’s is harsh.'"
Agreed
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| Quote ="Boss Hog"Expect another "War& Peace" post from Saddened explaining why Percival has been victimised by being suspended and shouldn`t have been sent-off.'"
About to unveil their new chant…
“It’s never our fault, it’s never our fault…”
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| Quote ="karetaker"Expect Saints will appeal, think Ashworth’s is harsh.'"
Both harsh IMHO.
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| In view of cup draw no doubt Percival will appeal
With regard to harshness not in the same league as the four match Vaughan ban. Now that was harsh
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| Quote ="RoyalWire"
With regard to harshness not in the same league as the four match Vaughan ban. Now that was harsh'"
It was harsh at the time, now with retrospect it was ridiculously unjust.
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| Quote ="RoyalWire"In view of cup draw no doubt Percival will appeal
:24q7gfbdWith regard to harshness not in the same league as the four match Vaughan ban. Now that was harsh[
Good point well made for anyone looking for a bit of balance
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I wouldn’t worrry UR, the chip on each shoulder keeps the Sad One well balanced.
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| Big difference from the first couple of weeks.
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| i dunno, there's still hull fc players being featured.
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| Does this mean teams are learning or that refs are just not arrised after just a month? I asked elsewhere, wasn't there meant to be a crackdown on the rucks, because Saints, Wigan and Cats are still slowing teams down awfully with no repercussions.
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| Quote ="matt_wire"Does this mean teams are learning or that refs are just not arrised after just a month? I asked elsewhere, wasn't there meant to be a crackdown on the rucks, because Saints, Wigan and Cats are still slowing teams down awfully with no repercussions.'"
I was saying this to someone y’day. That Leeds/Saints game was so different in the 2nd half with Saints laying on that long I thought they had fallen asleep. I knew Leeds needed to have scored more points in the 1st half because I knew the way it would be played when they came back out.
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| Quote ="karetaker"I was saying this to someone y’day. That Leeds/Saints game was so different in the 2nd half with Saints laying on that long I thought they had fallen asleep. I knew Leeds needed to have scored more points in the 1st half because I knew the way it would be played when they came back out.'"
The best way to make the RFL deal with this borefest of lying on by certain clubs (We all know who they are), is for the other clubs to imitate this tactic, so that the product is unwatchable and SKY complain that the games aren`t providing the required level of entertainment to their viewing audience.
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| Quote ="Captain Hook"About to unveil their new chant…
“It’s never our fault, it’s never our fault…”'"
Better still when we play Saints and beat them.
It’s never your fault, it’s never your fault,
Saints getting beaten, is never your fault.
Repeat.
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| Quote ="Boss Hog"The best way to make the RFL deal with this borefest of lying on by certain clubs (We all know who they are), is for the other clubs to imitate this tactic, so that the product is unwatchable and SKY complain that the games aren`t providing the required level of entertainment to their viewing audience.'"
It just wouldn't work though, the opposition would just get pinged for it when the usual get away with it because of "dominant tackles" which are an absolute nonsense. The only way to get rid of the absolute bore fest is to abolish the arbitrary dominant tackle and start penalising the usual suspects for laying on like they do every one else. We all know that won't happen.
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"i dunno, there's still hull fc players being featured.'"
I think we're trying to set some sort of record. Let's face it, most bans and cards is the only thing we're likely to win!
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| Quote ="CW8". The only way to get rid of the absolute bore fest is to abolish the arbitrary dominant tackle and start penalising the usual suspects for laying on like they do every one else. We all know that won't happen.'"
Exactly. It's clear when a defending team is doing it, it's obvious. The are holding down the player usually with their head swivelling around to look at their defensive line. There is a clear pause in the action of about 3 - 4 seconds.
It could be solved easily. Just a few penalties and players would have to adapt. Soon as the ref shouts "held" players have to get off quickly. None of this trapped arm nonsense, or accidentally causing hindrance to the attacking player.
It's killing the spectacle of the game.
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| Interesting that Leeds are way down on that list, considering they used to be full of local homegrown talent. Which adds to the theory of the best teams having the most successful academy products. Leeds haven’t been good for a few years now, and Rohan Smith seems to prefer journeymen. Unless it’s not his call of course.
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