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| Quote ="D.D."Interesting this Foster bashing.
I have to admit, after Potter threw him and Lomax together at Salford and they slashed us to pieces down that wing, my opinion was that he would never make it in a million years. He looked a broken man.
Since then, he as come in and proved us all wrong with a series of excellent performances. He was our man of the match in the semi-final against Leeds and his defensive work in running the ball out, positional play and fielding have been excellent.
Not the most gifted attacker I will give you that but most of us would certainly have him in our starting line up on Saturday and not just for goalkicking reasons.
As for playing outside the best centre in the league, Gidley has done sod all since about February and is well worthy of the retirement home if truth be known.
PS I have just noticed Saddened said exactly the same more or less and I can honestly say I wrote this without seeing it first.'"
I agree with this Foster is a good solid player and a great goal kicker but attacking wise can only score easy try's
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| Quote ="D.D."PS I have just noticed Saddened said exactly the same more or less and I can honestly say I wrote this without seeing it first.'"
Yeah yeah, everyone knows you are just a poor man's Saddened!
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| Quote ="MacBlondie"Foster is already better than that ginger kid you have.
How he has made it as a rugby league footballer amazes me'"
Take it being a saints fan you don't watch warrington much then? Riley has been good all season, a few silly mistakes from time to time but like foster the lad's still young and learning his trade. I would rather have Riley over foster at this moment in time as i think that Riley offers more defensively.
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| Quote ="matty wire 75"Take it being a saints fan you don't watch warrington much then? Riley has been good all season, a few silly mistakes from time to time but like foster the lad's still young and learning his trade. I would rather have Riley over foster at this moment in time as i think that Riley offers more defensively.'"
Riley doesn't offer more defensively though. They both seem pretty solid, Foster if anything is less prone to howlers with collecting kicks.
Riley is vastly better in attack though. His try at Bradford is something we've not seen anything of from Foster.
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| Quote ="Yankee"Awful defensively. Salford had a field day against him. That's where we went wrong not targeting him. He offers little in attack and benefits from playing outside of the best centre in the competition.'"
That was a one-off and seems to have been the making of him.
You didn't target him because (a) he has been fantastic under the bomb and (b) he can tackle. He isn't afraid to get his hands dirty and, like Riley for instance, when he gets bashed up (as he does because of his size), he just gets back up and carries on.
I don't know where the poster who claims he whinges at the ref gets that from. I've been watching him for weeks now and I've yet to see him whinge.
He has extremely good positional sense, which is very valuable in the backline.
He kicks very well of course - superbly on Friday night.
He isn't slow. I don't think he could outpace Riley over a stretch but he has a useful bit of acceleration which is definitely a bonus for Saints, given we are mostly a bunch of tortoises.
Since this is his debut season and he hasn't been playing for the whole of it due to being introduced at about the halfway mark, I think he has made tremendous progress - probably the fastest progress of all our young players - and is showing real potential. Hopefully our next coach will continue with him as our first choice winger and develop his attacking game.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"
I don't know where the poster who claims he whinges at the ref gets that from. I've been watching him for weeks now and I've yet to see him whinge. '"
get away with yourself ...he spends almost the entire game with both arms stretched out to the side flapping around.
In fact i'm going to write to Sky and ask that when they put players height and weight in the on-screen graphics when they do Foster they should include his "wingspan"
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| I'm not sure how you can be slating Jamie Foster. Only a couple of seasons ago your saviour was Kevin Penny, all he could do was run fast. He literally couldn't do anything else. Oh he could jump a bit too.
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| Neither. As i will be getting earache either way...
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint" your saviour was Kevin Penny, all he could do was run fast. He literally couldn't do anything else. Oh he could jump a bit too.'"
I know, awful finisher. They were all down to his speed, not like he scored a shed load against Saints either. His defence was terrible though.
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| I think Foster has to be the biggest improver in SL. He will go well next season.
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| Quote ="Fresh Prince of Chesh-air"Why don't you compare Wigan to St Helens just out of interest.
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From the same time-frame as Wire's run against us:-
World Club Championship - Saints 2 Wigan 0
Championship - Saints 5 Wigan 1
Challenge Cup - Saints 7 Wigan 1
League Leaders Shield - Saints 4 Wigan 1
Premiership - Saints 0 Wigan 2
Regal Trophy - Saints 0 Wigan 1
Overall - Saints 18 Wigan 6
From the same time-frame since the 20-2 comparison:-
World Club Championship - Saints 2 Wigan 1
Championship - Saints 5 Wigan 6
Challenge Cup - Saints 7 Wigan 5
League Leaders Shield - Saints 4 Wigan 1
Premiership - Saints 1 Wigan 5
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Overall - Saints 20 Wigan 23
Stands up quite well considering their domination of that era.
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Not a fan of Mancini then? That the general consensus by the fans? He be likely to go?'"
His slow tempo, deliberate game is simply wasting away our chances this year. Not everyone agrees, but we are not talking a very high level of intelligence here, as most are just dreamers. If he doesn't attain Champions League footbal it will be an utter disaster and he'll simply have to go.
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| Quote ="Yankee"I know, awful finisher. They were all down to his speed, not like he scored a shed load against Saints either. His defence was terrible though.'"
Yeah he did score a few tries because he was fast. He probably gave away just as many as he scored though. As a rugby league player in general he was terrible.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"Yeah he did score a few tries because he was fast. He probably gave away just as many as he scored though. As a rugby league player in general he was terrible.'"
How many did he score against St Helens? Couldn't have been that bad? Don't come back with he gave away tires against you because lets face it, all our players do.
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| well tbh when we've got Meli it evens it out, but i think the championship is where Penny belongs. Paul Cullen seems to love him. When we played against you we would be excited if Penny was named in the lineup because we knew there was a liability for you.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"well tbh when we've got Meli it evens it out, but i think the championship is where Penny belongs. Paul Cullen seems to love him. When we played against you we would be excited if Penny was named in the lineup because we knew there was a liability for you.'"
Jeez, you get excited everytime you play us, cause you know it's 2 points or a fee pass to the next round.
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| There's been a few occasions where halfway through the match I haven't been so sure! Your squad is strong at the moment and with Tony Smith you stand the best chance of beating us next season, if your players can keep their composure.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Riley doesn't offer more defensively though. They both seem pretty solid, Foster if anything is less prone to howlers with collecting kicks.
Riley is vastly better in attack though. His try at Bradford is something we've not seen anything of from Foster.'"
I think Riley over foster for try saving tackles last season. So offers more defensively. I remember Riley's solo try in 2009 season against hudds at the HJ just before the hooter, that was pure class.
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| Quote ="D.D."From the same time-frame as Wire's run against us:-
World Club Championship - Saints 2 Wigan 0
Championship - Saints 5 Wigan 1
Challenge Cup - Saints 7 Wigan 1
League Leaders Shield - Saints 4 Wigan 1
Premiership - Saints 0 Wigan 2
Regal Trophy - Saints 0 Wigan 1
Overall - Saints 18 Wigan 6
From the same time-frame since the 20-2 comparison:-
World Club Championship - Saints 2 Wigan 1
Championship - Saints 5 Wigan 6
Challenge Cup - Saints 7 Wigan 5
League Leaders Shield - Saints 4 Wigan 1
Premiership - Saints 1 Wigan 5
Regal Trophy - Saints 0 Wigan 4
Lancashire Cup - Saints 1 Wigan 1
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Stands up quite well considering their domination of that era. '"
Could you do one from when time began? Or would that not suit you?
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"Yeah he did score a few tries because he was fast. He probably gave away just as many as he scored though. As a rugby league player in general he was terrible.'"
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"d040.gif'"
You cant argue that he was Warrington standard because he's not. He's Championship or lower super league level. Maybe terrible was an exaggeration but you can't describe him as a 'good' player. He has too many faults.
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| Whoever loses their boards will be full of Trolls on Sunday morning.
Happy days.
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| Quote ="Tezzerwolf"Whoever loses their boards will be full of Trolls on Sunday morning.
Happy days.
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Not if Wigan lose they will have the mod's out in force to ban every single troll
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| Wigan. Hate them both with passion but Wigan deserve it this season so routing for them !
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| Don't mind who wins it to be honest, but if i had to pick a winner i'd say Wigan, and by a good 20 points, i don't think Saints have enough creativity without Eastmond and Pryce. I think Meli will be targeted like he has been the last couple of grand finals, also Foster will struggle with Richards.
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