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| Quote ="CW8"The sport won't attract new sponsors and fans unless the powers that be make the game quicker and more exciting.'"
It seems to me easy to fix. Just police the tackle and play the ball tighter with sin bin and penalty for repeat offence of holding down and slowing the ruck. Tackle and off the player when the ref says held. If you don't - penalty. This would give the attacking side more reward for running hard and create opportunities of less than perfectly aligned defences for the flair players to exploit. Oh and whilst we are at it - enforce the 10 meters at the play the ball. Not 9 or 8.5 by the time the ball is played.
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| Quote ="Wires71"It seems to me easy to fix. Just police the tackle and play the ball tighter with sin bin and penalty for repeat offence of holding down and slowing the ruck. Tackle and off the player when the ref says held. If you don't - penalty. This would give the attacking side more reward for running hard and create opportunities of less than perfectly aligned defences for the flair players to exploit. Oh and whilst we are at it - enforce the 10 meters at the play the ball. Not 9 or 8.5 by the time the ball is played.'"
Its a good point, I think RL is in danger of becoming too much of a slug fest, which isn't going to attract the neutral supporter - it's an entertainment business, lets play to a set of rules that promotes that. Six again was supposed to help that, if anything it has made it worse.
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| Quote ="Wires71"It seems to me easy to fix. Just police the tackle and play the ball tighter with sin bin and penalty for repeat offence of holding down and slowing the ruck. Tackle and off the player when the ref says held. If you don't - penalty. This would give the attacking side more reward for running hard and create opportunities of less than perfectly aligned defences for the flair players to exploit. Oh and whilst we are at it - enforce the 10 meters at the play the ball. Not 9 or 8.5 by the time the ball is played.'"
Totally agree, when the referee calls move, if every tackling player doesn't move straight away then a penalty is called. A team mate being in the way by lying on top isn't an excuse. Hands on the opposition player trying to play the ball is penalised, stepping off the mark is penalised. Players and clubs would soon get the message, apart from saints who would just think everyone has it in for them because the officials are actually penalising their players infringements.
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| Quote ="Alffi_7"Its a good point, I think RL is in danger of becoming too much of a slug fest, which isn't going to attract the neutral supporter - it's an entertainment business, lets play to a set of rules that promotes that. Six again was supposed to help that, if anything it has made it worse.'"
Six again has been a failure as it is exploited and gamed early in the tackle count to buy defences more time, it's a tactic. It also has diminished the impact of the the offense of purposefully slowing the ruck. Before the six again rule the infringing team were penalised with a kick to touch (-30 yards) AND six more tackles to defend or a penalty goal attempt.
All the mithering at the play the ball, hands in on the ball, accidentally getting legs and arms caught, taking 2-3 seconds after held is called is all BS and ruining the game. It's slow, unattractive and dull. As soon as the player surrenders the defensive players need to clear out. If you want 3 in the tackle then they had better be quick getting out of the way or it's a penalty. This will hopefully end the spectacle of attacking players throwing their arms in the air in feigned exasperation. It's pantomime crap, as is feigning injury.
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No, let’s not be misleading. We replaced him with Magoulias, then Amor, THEN Dudson.
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No, let’s not be misleading. We replaced him with Magoulias, then Amor, THEN Dudson.
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| Quote ="Barbed Wire"No, let’s not be misleading. We replaced him with Magoulias, then Amor, THEN Dudson.'"
No we didnt. Mulhearn was with us for all of 2022.
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| All those tries & breaks showed the great value of supporting the ball carrier. I am sure we are capable of doing that.
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| Quote ="Wires71"No we didnt. Mulhearn was with us for all of 2022.'"
Quite right, my mistake!
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| Quote ="Barbed Wire"Quite right, my mistake!'"
Indeed, but the names you referenced do illustrate that our recruitment has been, shall we say, a little lacking......
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| Weakest position?
Centre?
So we replace Ratch and he becomes a squad player.....
Weakest position?
Kicker
Dont think anyone is at his level.
I suppose it would fall on Williams who can definately kick but it's yet something else to heap in his shoulders.
Mmmm.
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| Hayes is a very good kicker, Thewlis can kick as well. Let's give a youngster the responsibility and look to the future. No player should be in the 17 for his place kicking alone.
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| Quote ="ratticusfinch"Hayes is a very good kicker, Thewlis can kick as well. Let's give a youngster the responsibility and look to the future. No player should be in the 17 for his place kicking alone.'"
I guess we may have to rely on Thewlis then as unless there are injuries Hayes won't get a regular slot I feel.
No idea how good they are tbh - others have more knowledge than me.
I understand the 'no player should be in for his kicking alone' line but can see both sides of the argument.
Some Wigan friends of mine (yes there are some decent types!) reckon Botica was only in the Wigan side for his kicking - he was rather special. But then again that Wigan side were full of internationals and in their pomp, and iirc Botica was still playing at international level.
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| Quote ="fez1"Weakest position?
Centre?
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Weakest position?
Kicker
Dont think anyone is at his level.
I suppose it would fall on Williams who can definately kick but it's yet something else to heap in his shoulders.
Mmmm.'"
Thewlis is a kicker.
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| also kicker isn't a position.
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| Kicking is a skill that can be practiced and improved on. We shouldn't get too hung up on that IMO. Thewlis, Williams and drinkwater can all kick.
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| Quote ="CW8"Kicking is a skill that can be practiced and improved on. We shouldn't get too hung up on that IMO. Thewlis, Williams and drinkwater can all kick.'"
Hopefully, the kicker for next season won`t be any of those players.
Leon Hayes should be our 1st team scrum half and will be kicking goals.
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| Need someone at 2nd row to put pressure on Currie,
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| Quote ="karetaker"Need someone at 2nd row to put pressure on Currie,'"
He'll have Crowther and Harrison putting pressure on him next year. Although Crowther isn't a world beater, he puts 100% effort in each game and doesn't shy away from hard work. I'd rather have that than Currie ambling about and not rolling his sleeves up each week.
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| Quote ="Or thane"He'll have Crowther and Harrison putting pressure on him next year. Although Crowther isn't a world beater, he puts 100% effort in each game and doesn't shy away from hard work. I'd rather have that than Currie ambling about and not rolling his sleeves up each week.'"
Crowther put more effort in the few games he had than Currie for most of the season
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| Quote ="karetaker"Crowther put more effort in the few games he had than Currie for most of the season'"
I completely agree, Currie seems to thrive when our pack is Dominant and steamrolling ahead, but if the forwards aren't firing he disappears.
Do you reckon we'll bring anyone else in now or does everyone reckon the squad is set now?
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| Quote ="Or thane"I completely agree, Currie seems to thrive when our pack is Dominant and steamrolling ahead, but if the forwards aren't firing he disappears.
Do you reckon we'll bring anyone else in now or does everyone reckon the squad is set now?'"
Yes, the fans of Currie that say he needs a dominant pack seem to forget that he is part of the pack.
He needs to do the hard graft too.
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| Quote ="Or thane"I completely agree, Currie seems to thrive when our pack is Dominant and steamrolling ahead, but if the forwards aren't firing he disappears.
Do you reckon we'll bring anyone else in now or does everyone reckon the squad is set now?'"
I don’t think we ever stop looking. But it can’t be an over seas player unless we move someone on and it seem we have already tried to move Kasiano on.
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| I would say our weakest position is Chief Executive, especially since I've seen that video of him mocking us supporters for not turning up at his "much publicised" Q&A near the Brian Bevan statue.
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| Hooker now the Dwyer announcement has been made.
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