That can be destroyed straightaway. Look who won the Dally M Award last year and the furore it caused. Brett Hodgson is our top Goldthorpe performer, but he hasn't been our best player by any means this year. The Goldthorpe medal tends to be the best individual in a particular team. Chase for example, has scored over 60% of Castleford's points. The only indicator for MOS is the players themselves, and if the players vote for Sam then he will deserve it (can't see too many votes from Leeds though).

I wouldn't rubbish Hodgsons season due to not playing much of late and the shocker against Wigan in the cup, its based on the full season not just the last four games of the season.

I'm not. He's a very good player. I'm just pointing out that he hasn't been our best player, but according to the Goldthorpe ratings he has.

Monas not even made the dream team, yet his brother has, they have Roby as their hooker.

Oh I am sorry; you have misunderstood (may be my wording) I was saying that the matches I referenced (leeds in CC and wire games etc) no one could claim he had made a positive impact (unless with very thick pie goggles on). While other matches where he played a bit of a part (leeds at headingley etc) such as kicking a penalty, he merely played an average role due to periods of dominance from the pack. However, He still was poor in defence, was selfish and was at many time ineefective.

I watched many games in person and if not I watched them on tv.

You are free to disagree with me though

In 'how many are we taking to the game in Uzbekistan' style. +1

Man of Steel, ooops

Why ooops? Dream Team is voted for by journalists using a points system. It is not a huge leap of faith to imagine Monaghan was a close second to Roby for the hooking role. Who is to say the players
will necessarily agree with the hacks?

see, your all doing it again! trying to have a reasoned debate with the gonads that come on this site from the pie board is like em, pointless! ffs wise up and ignore them! i have and i feel so much cleaner since i started.

Well said slim..I have started ignoring them now and you know what it feels like i have got rid of a sexually transmitted disease that has followed me around since High school..

Wouldnt know what that feels like.

i just got a faint whiff of the kinda smell you only get when a pie eater farts in your car!

Some people will always be a little bias towards their own but most on this thread have outlined fair and reasoned arguments for who they think will be MoS, you've contributed selective stat's to suit and then laughed at us. Not much of a debate with you is it? I said earlier that the best two players in Super League are Michael Monaghan and James Roby, but Sam Tomkins and Rangi Chase are more entertaining and exciting from a media point of view. I thought last season's best player in SL was Sean O'Loughlin but Pat Richards won MoS - again he's more exciting from a media POV. I thought that was unfair on SO'L. I think if ST or RC win it this season i think it will be unfair of Monas and Roby.

Not surprised, you would need to have s*x to contract an STD.

Yeah with two members of the opposite sex as well!!!But whatever floats ya boat tricky lad whatever floats ya boat...

MOS for me Michael Monaghan.

Stand out player in the stand out team this year which averaged 40+ points a game IIRC.

Your memory is spot on.

Not popular enough though, it would seem!!



You really leave yourself wide open with these things, don't you Rick??
As I've said to you before.....always best to avoid gloating until you've got summat to gloat about!!







Did you 'lump on' at those odds??.......or did you have it down as a 'win-double' with the 'back to back Grand Finals' bet???

What's that your eating - looks like humble pie to me (with a side-order of sour grapes).

Castleford scored 664 points this season (league only)
Chase has scored 15 tries and 2 drop-goals = 62 points.
62 out of the 664 points scored is 9%.
I assume maths isn't your strong point?

Depends how you define it, if he is the reason a winger is put in for an easy score you could argue it was Chase who created the 4 points

Not what he said though!
And if we counted all the tries Chase played a pivotal role in, it would be above 60%.

I assume reading isn't yours. If you look at all my posts on the matter, i was pointing out that Chase scored 60% of Castleford's team points awarded for the Goldthorpe medal.

touche