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| Quote ="just_browny"Another tantrum in tonight's match programme.
[urlhttps://twitter.com/garethwalker/status/1167495356856320001?s=19[/url'"
That is brilliant the bitter old coffin dodger! Saints will not want us in a play off or the grand final after Saturday.
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| I have not been posting on here for the last few months, but I have never been so incensed by an article in rugby league. I was at Wembley and although I went there never expecting a win, the wire fully deserved the win on the day. Can’t get away from the fact saints have been the best team this year, but the arrogance of the vans on redvee before the finally was disgusting and disrespectful and you can see where it all comes from, if the owner of Staines comes out with shat like that.... big ask if we can get to the grand final but that article should be pinned on to the dressing room door no team talk required..I thought Wigan was the team I loved to beat the most but this makes saints look another low level
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| Quote ="just_browny"Another tantrum in tonight's match programme.
[urlhttps://twitter.com/garethwalker/status/1167495356856320001?s=19[/url'"
How ever I’m not blaming the referee
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| Nor is it sour grapes, or taking away anything from Warrington's win.
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| Quote ="just_browny"Another tantrum in tonight's match programme.
[urlhttps://twitter.com/garethwalker/status/1167495356856320001?s=19[/url'"
Seems like he has taken it really well
devoid of class.
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| Holbrook immediately complaining about the referee tonight in his interview,.....................after a victory!!
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| Quote ="Moe syslak"Holbrook immediately complaining about the referee tonight in his interview,.....................after a victory!!'"
Go on Brian carney you ledge!!
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| Fair play to Carney on Sky Sports calling out Eamon McManus on his pathetic piece in the match day program. ‘Adding fuel to the fire’ on the pressure of referees...
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| Quote ="Psychedelic Casual"Also what we haven’t seen is the camera shot from behind to show a proper perspective of it.
Hicks would have sent it up as no try and you can’t overturn that and give a try from a zoomed in camera angle from the other side of the ball.
You have to prove for certain that he definitely grounded it. Not show that it looked like he might have grounded it from an unreliable camera angle 100m away.'"
That’s right.
For all the saints faux outrage, I havn’t seen an image that conclusively shows the moment of a try being scored, in accordance with the laws of scoring a try.
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| Quote ="Dezzies_right_hook"Go on Brian carney you ledge!!'"
Missed that. Fell asleep.
Did he give it to Holbrook?
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| Surely that article is tantamount to bringing the game into disrepute?
A clown like McManus spouting drivel like that does absolutely nothing good for stains or the sport of rugby league as a whole.
He may as well have laid down on the pitch banging his feet on the floor screaming "it's not fair!"
A classless individual who deserves the respect of absolutely no one involved in rugby league - if I was a stains fan (shudder) I would be so embarrassed by these rantings of a very bitter old man.
I pray to all the gods that they don't win the grand final, just in the hope that his head will explode.....
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| If Moran released that statement I'd be spitting feathers. It's an embarrassment. The ramblings of a drunk man in a bar.
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| I happened to be in the lounge where the director's were before the game, the saint's crew came bowling in with the attitude it was a formality that they would win and were so cock-sure it would be a case of how many!
At half time they came in and were calling for the ref to be lynched.
Full-tme Mc Manus reluctantly shook our chairman's hand and sat down and looked like his dog had just been run over !
they then made a hasty retreat.
poor looser !
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| Since when has a death threat been a publicity stunt? Also questioning the integrity of the official is pretty disgraceful. If the RFL had any balls they'd fine old bacon face.
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| They've done pretty well when Hicks has been ref, winning 75% of the time.
Their last 10 matches with Hicks as ref they've won 60%.
2018 Jul 19th St Helens W 14 - 6 Wigan
2018 Aug 5th St Helens L 16 - 35 Catalans
2018 Oct 4th St Helens L 13 - 18 Warrington
2019 Jan 31st St Helens W 22 - 12 Wigan
2019 Feb 10th St Helens W 24 - 18 Wakefield Trinity
2019 Feb 22nd St Helens W 27 - 22 Leeds
2019 Apr 6th St Helens L 10 - 18 Catalans
2019 Apr 22nd St Helens W 62 - 16 Hull FC
2019 Apr 28th St Helens W 50 - 14 Catalans
2019 May 26th St Helens W 36 - 16 Castleford Tigers
2019 Aug 24th St Helens L 4 - 18 Warrington
Questioning not just the integrity of Hicks, but of our club including the CEO. A fine and a warning about his future conduct should be coming his way.
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| What a whopper!
... and he's got white eyebrows.
.... and he's associated with that club
Life clearly has dealt him a 5h1t hand
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| Quote ="lister"They've done pretty well when Hicks has been ref, winning 75% of the time.
Their last 10 matches with Hicks as ref they've won 60%.
2018 Jul 19th St Helens W 14 - 6 Wigan
2018 Aug 5th St Helens L 16 - 35 Catalans
2018 Oct 4th St Helens L 13 - 18 Warrington
2019 Jan 31st St Helens W 22 - 12 Wigan
2019 Feb 10th St Helens W 24 - 18 Wakefield Trinity
2019 Feb 22nd St Helens W 27 - 22 Leeds
2019 Apr 6th St Helens L 10 - 18 Catalans
2019 Apr 22nd St Helens W 62 - 16 Hull FC
2019 Apr 28th St Helens W 50 - 14 Catalans
2019 May 26th St Helens W 36 - 16 Castleford Tigers
2019 Aug 24th St Helens L 4 - 18 Warrington
Questioning not just the integrity of Hicks, but of our club including the CEO. A fine and a warning about his future conduct should be coming his way.'"
Good stats....Add to the list.
Their last 2 matches against Warrington with Hicks as ref they've lost 100%
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| The comment from Dave Woods sums it up perfectly:
"Dave Woods
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There’s never, ever been a golden age of refereeing. Though I think we’re in a golden era of bitter, wearisome, boring carping about referees"
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| redvee in meltdown 2.1 Apparantly it was the death threat that won it for us.
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| Quote ="lister"They've done pretty well when Hicks has been ref, winning 75% of the time.
Their last 10 matches with Hicks as ref they've won 60%.
2018 Jul 19th St Helens W 14 - 6 Wigan
2018 Aug 5th St Helens L 16 - 35 Catalans
=#FF00002018 Oct 4th St Helens L 13 - 18 Warrington
2019 Jan 31st St Helens W 22 - 12 Wigan
2019 Feb 10th St Helens W 24 - 18 Wakefield Trinity
2019 Feb 22nd St Helens W 27 - 22 Leeds
2019 Apr 6th St Helens L 10 - 18 Catalans
2019 Apr 22nd St Helens W 62 - 16 Hull FC
2019 Apr 28th St Helens W 50 - 14 Catalans
2019 May 26th St Helens W 36 - 16 Castleford Tigers
=#FF00002019 Aug 24th St Helens L 4 - 18 Warrington
Questioning not just the integrity of Hicks, but of our club including the CEO. A fine and a warning about his future conduct should be coming his way.'"
Expect yet more bitter posts about Chris Hicks from WA9 to WA11.
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| Reading some of the comments on RedVee combined with fish faces diatribe leads me to question the quality of the drinking water over there.
Paranoia? You calling us paranoid? We're not paranoid its just the RFL, the refs, and the world hate us.
I fully expect a thread any day saying Steve Price was spotted on a grassy knoll in Dallas 63
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| Quote ="MorePlaymakersNeeded"Expect yet more bitter posts about Chris Hicks from WA9 to WA11.'"
Don't tell me Saints are a small club in Warrington!
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| I think they're now officially trying to detract from our success. It's beyond sour grapes and completely at odds with the spirit of rugby league..of any sport. They may want to think about the two routes to the final our respective clubs took and then have a think about who were truly worthy winnersb of the 2019 challenge cup and just get on with it. They're really letting themselves down.
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| McManus' rantings make St Helens look like a small minded club, who just can't accept defeat, and the accusations against Warrington and Hicks are staggering.
First the Saint Helens Star report, now this in the programme notes. Had he just congratulated Warrington and then corresponded with the RFL, privately, then he wouldn't look such a childishly sore loser.
I'm so happy that Simon Moran and Simon Middleton don't behave in this way.
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| I think Saints should be able to select their own ref. It’s unfair that since Wilkin left they haven’t been allowed to do so.
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