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| Quote ="karetaker"Wouldnt touch the away one with a barge pole,tbh we have had better kits.'"
the away shirt in 2012 was a big seller, i can see this one doing as well.
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| Quote ="WazzaWire"Home mostly blue, with primrose and white V. Away black and red hoops. The most noticeable difference to previous kits is that they're not littered with the usual various minor sponsors, just the main sponsor and club badge. I wasn't expecting much but thought they were both excellent, but I'm sure there'll be complaints from some as usual'"
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| I actually liked the away shirt so might get the home shirt for my Mrs as I think the 2 shirt deal is still offered, She moaned last year she didn't have the home shirt so might keep her happy
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| Any idea when the new website is set to go online?
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| Quote ="WireRL"Any idea when the new website is set to go online?'"
Think they said the 19th November.
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| Quote ="WazzaWire"Think they said the 19th November.'"
Yes the 19th, the other website that is coming online in 10 days I think they said is The Wire Club, this as been endorsed by the club and Tony Smith is behind the guys who are running it. Think that's right but some one can correct me if it's wrong.
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| Quote ="karetaker"Yes the 19th, the other website that is coming online in 10 days I think they said is The Wire Club, this as been endorsed by the club and Tony Smith is behind the guys who are running it. Think that's right but some one can correct me if it's wrong.'"
that'll probaly all end in tears
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"that'll probaly all end in tears'"
Full of joy you are ? Get the new logo sorted on the page!!!!
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| He's right though, if left up to fans they muck it up 9 times out of 10.
You see some of the things fans think are priority and it makes you laugh.
Beer prices seem to be top priority in every discussion, loads don't drink, kids certainly don't.
A bar
A more varied beer selection
A beer tent
Faster beer queues.
Seriously, fans running anything is usually amateur hour central.
Fans are fans and professional employees are employees for a reason.
On the Facebook fan page some illiterate donkey wrote his Wire manifesto littered with pointless punctuation in block capitals about issues that only concerned him and a select few of his mates, passing it off as though the fans had spoken and here was their result. Fans can be embarrassing.
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| Quote ="Wire Yed"
Fans can be embarrassing.'"
This ^^^^
i'm a fan, I wouldn't reccomend me to organize anything.
Too many Self Important Poseurs© if you ask me.
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| Quote ="Slaphead63"Full of joy you are ?
Get the new logo sorted on the page!!!!'"
Its part of the new roll out for the new season, you'll start seeing the new logo in place as the off season takes place, it'll be gradually getting put in position of all the old snarling Wolfies that you see around and about......I stole that off our Rog
PS Wind yer neck in!
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| Quote ="Wire Yed"He's right though, if left up to fans they muck it up 9 times out of 10.
You see some of the things fans think are priority and it makes you laugh.
Beer prices seem to be top priority in every discussion, loads don't drink, kids certainly don't.
A bar
A more varied beer selection
A beer tent
Faster beer queues.
Seriously, fans running anything is usually amateur hour central.
Fans are fans and professional employees are employees for a reason.
On the Facebook fan page some illiterate donkey wrote his Wire manifesto littered with pointless punctuation in block capitals about issues that only concerned him and a select few of his mates, passing it off as though the fans had spoken and here was their result. Fans can be embarrassing.'"
Welcome back Yed
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| Quote ="Wire Yed"He's right though, if left up to fans they muck it up 9 times out of 10.
You see some of the things fans think are priority and it makes you laugh.
Beer prices seem to be top priority in every discussion, loads don't drink, kids certainly don't.
A bar
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Seriously, fans running anything is usually amateur hour central.
Fans are fans and professional employees are employees for a reason.
On the Facebook fan page some illiterate donkey wrote his Wire manifesto littered with pointless punctuation in block capitals about issues that only concerned him and a select few of his mates, passing it off as though the fans had spoken and here was their result. Fans can be embarrassing.'"
Some good points there, thinking about it now who decided who these fan ambassadors were going to be? I don't remember seeing anything were we vote for anyone.
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| Quote ="karetaker"Some good points there, thinking about it now who decided who these fan ambassadors were going to be? I don't remember seeing anything were we vote for anyone.'"
Personally, i think it's like most things in life, certainly in the case of the odd person that jumps up on here and shouts "I WANT TO BE A MODERATOR".
If you're asking very very much to do something, (IMO anyway) you're probably not the right person to be doing it. we all know how difficult it is to get volunteers, for ANYTHING.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"As I was not wanting to be spoiling like Wazza. I was going to say if you want to know pm me.
As there is no point I may as well add it's a replica of Warrington Zingari. 1885.'"
There was no such team as Warrington Zingari in 1885. I hope that wasn't what they said??
We were originally formed in 1876 as Warrington Zingari (playing in red and black-but sure if any evidence proves whether it was hoops or stripes or what). The club dropped the Zingari for the 1876/7 season. Again I'm not sure it's clear what colours we then played in, but I believe we were NOT playing in red and black by 1878/9, as at the AGM ahead of the 1879/80 season a decision was taken to revert back to red and black (again, I don't think it's known whether they were stripes/hoops/whatever).
Historic kits are not my specific area of expertise/research (I'll get in touch with Gary Slater who is more up on this than me). Would be interested if they expanded on this last night-can anyone confirm? Other than on the badge, is there any reference to the 7 founding fathers, as I'd heard that something was going to be incorporated re these guys? I assume that the 140 years badge has been incorporated somewhere?
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| Quote ="matt king's cat"Welcome back Yed'"
Thank you
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| I think the people who are doing it have been to all the focus groups etc so I assume the club approached them first. If you turn up to these regularly I would hope that this shows a certain level of commitment.
The Fans ideas and events are not beer or self related at all and ALL will be family event orientated, Speaking to them last night I was impressed by the things coming up and it is Team and club related. if people do not like the things coming up it is time to quit the club because no other club in SL will be giving this club OR fans the level of access before.
one point that did come out of the groups were members did not feel valued by the club......well trust me that will be blown away in the next few months. Once the season actually starts everyone will see.
If anyone has ideas I suggest you follow the Facebook or Twitter pages etc.
Slap
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| There's no doubting there will be intelligent Wire fans, successful people with decent ideas, but do they want to get involved with Wire?
Are they qualified enough to offer advice that is worth taking?
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| I would have thought the most important aspects should be the future of the club on the field instead of gimmicks like incorporating the nostalgia of rose coloured glasses to try & sell merchandise & the price & variety of booze on offer.
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| Quote ="ninearches"I would have thought the most important aspects should be the future of the club on the field instead of gimmicks like incorporating the nostalgia of rose coloured glasses to try & sell merchandise & the price & variety of booze on offer.'"
Ignoring the mixed metaphor, why do you assume the two are mutually exclusive?
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| I am of the age group that buys merchandise at a time of my choosing ,& as for the beer, i don't drink & drive.
I go to see the product on the pitch.
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| Quote ="Slaphead63"I think the people who are doing it have been to all the focus groups etc so I assume the club approached them first. If you turn up to these regularly I would hope that this shows a certain level of commitment.
The Fans ideas and events are not beer or self related at all and ALL will be family event orientated, Speaking to them last night I was impressed by the things coming up and it is Team and club related. if people do not like the things coming up it is time to quit the club because no other club in SL will be giving this club OR fans the level of access before.
one point that did come out of the groups were members did not feel valued by the club......well trust me that will be blown away in the next few months. Once the season actually starts everyone will see.
If anyone has ideas I suggest you follow the Facebook or Twitter pages etc.
Slap'"
With respect, the 'super fans' who dress up to visit Wolfware and have time to attend all these things aren't usually very representative of Joe Public. They tend to either be brown noses or people who love joining committees.
Rochdale Hornets are a fan owned club, so I imagine their supporters are the most involved in RL. On the other hand, you have Leeds which is run by Hetherington and his team very much like any other business. High levels of customer participation doesn't necessarily mean success; put the right people into jobs, give them the trust and flexibility to perform. There's a very simple reason why most social clubs went bust years ago...enjoying a good up doesn't necessarily mean you know how to organise one!
As an aside, what is wrong with the current Supporters Trust which many of us have paid out subs to over the years?
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| Supporters trust AND squadbuilder, for the past thirteen years.
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| A good boss will always listen to the opinion of others. An excellent boss knows which opinion that they have heard they need to ignore.
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| Quote ="mikej"A good boss will always listen to the opinion of others. An excellent boss knows which opinion that they have heard they need to ignore.'"
And your point is.
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