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| Quote ="EHW"AS you say, he was trying to stop the ball being put down, and knocked the ball out. Roby recovered it and scored a try. There really was no other decision that could have been given.
For the record, Penny was about 2 yards offside at the play the ball before his interception try.'"
The ball was played and on the ground for awhile Walsh picked it up stepped Philbin, we are now well into broken play he passes to Penny how is Penny offside?
It was a great game with defences on top Saints making less errors and the more patient, after the Penny try Wire should have took the game on but credit to Saints, I don't think I can knock anyone's effort they all gave 100% they worked the ball about well for good spells leading up to disallowed tries/held up so something for Smith to work on.
O'Brien did well calling and getting Curry in Myler was unlucky with a few half breaks and they did move the ball across well I thought they had good games, Walsh and Burns played well but for all their efforts in the first half all Saints got was the Roby try.
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| Quote ="sir adrian morley"those pillocks on sky and that includes that grade one tool cummings said there was nowt wrong with what masoe did..and the incident when atkins convinced himself he scored.carney said did he deliberatly gave the ball to the sts defenders..what bilge..'"
You actually think the ball was stolen there? Seriously??
As for what Masoe did... Does anybody [uREALLY[/u think that was a punch? He raised his arm which made it look a bit pantomimey, yes, but he was clearly just trying to get more momentum behind him when he slammed down in the tackle. Which is kind of harsh, yeah, but certainly not illegal as far as I'm aware and certainly not worthy of a sending off as some people have LAUGHABLY suggested. A punch?! xD Yeah, he deffo went to punch the back of his own man
Can you not at least lose with some dignity? Geez. It was a really good game and with some more composure, you quite easily could have won it. If the rumours are true about you getting a halfback before the deadline, you could easily sneak into that top 4 for the play-offs and then anything can happen. It's not all doom and gloom!
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| Well he punched his own man in the back then. Should that still go unpunished? If Westwood head butts Sims should that go unpunished? I don't know so I'm asking. Is smacking your own players fair game?
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Well he punched his own man in the back then. Should that still go unpunished? If Westwood head butts Sims should that go unpunished? I don't know so I'm asking. Is smacking your own players fair game?'"
My point is that it wasn't a punch and anybody who thinks it is should probably take whatever colour-tinted specs they're wearing and actually think it through. Who was he attempting to punch exactly? There was certainly not a wire player in the vicinity of his arm!
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| I don't know if he did or didn't. I just saw his arm go up bent at the elbow and a fist come down. I could see who he hit of if he hit. It just looked to me like he punched. I can't think of any reason he would make that particular move?!
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| I have only seen it once at the match ,it wasn't shown on the highlights programme ,but if that wasn't an intended punch then Masoe needs to get medical treatment for his involuntary arm movements.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"so it's no longer the big 4...?
Were not biting chinny.'"
The last time we had a 'big 4' was when Bradford were up there as a major force. A club that had Grand Final and World Club Challenge wins to their name.
Warrington are just not an 'elite' club.
And I support none of Wigan,St Helens or Leeds. There's no way Wire even remotely compare to those three 'elite' clubs.
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| I remember Bradford having the strongest team in the league when they were firmly at the foot of the RFL & propping up the rest of the league. The recent resurgence in Bradford fortunes was instigated by sky for the formation of superleague.
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| If you go back over the last decade chinny you see that all the available domestic cup are won by only 4 teams. Hence the big 4.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"If you go back over the last decade chinny you see that all the available domestic cup are won by only 4 teams. Hence the big 4.'"
Make that 9 years. Hull won the Challenge cup in 2005.
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| Quote ="ninearches"I remember Bradford having the strongest team in the league when they were firmly at the foot of the RFL & propping up the rest of the league. The recent resurgence in Bradford fortunes was instigated by sky for the formation of superleague.'"
I'm quite suprised Warrington fans can be so dismissive of Bradford.
A club who in the history of RL have been champions more times than you and have been several time World Club Champions, something Wire could only dream of being.
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| Quote ="Builth Wells Wire"Make that 9 years. Hull won the Challenge cup in 2005.'"
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Yawns.'"
Smiles ... Wrong again.
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| Quote ="Bruce_Forsyth"I'm quite suprised Warrington fans can be so dismissive of Bradford.
A club who in the history of RL have been champions more times than you and have been several time World Club Champions, something Wire could only dream of being.'"
Nobody cares what you think you monotonous cretin.
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| Quote ="Builth Wells Wire"Smiles ...
Wrong again.'"
9 years 11 months and you want to argue a point? Very pedantic, enjoy your smile.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"9 years 11 months and you want to argue a point? Very pedantic, enjoy your smile.'"
I will put it with my "chufty badge"..............Still less than 10 years
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| And your still pedantic.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"If you go back over the last decade chinny you see that all the available domestic cup are won by only 4 teams. Hence the big 4.'"
Yeah but the 'big prize' has only been won by 3. For me, you can't class yourself as a big club until you win a Grand Final. Being a big club means frequent success, and how successful are you if you've never won the main competition?
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| I can't argue the point if you say that is the benchmark.
However, if I was offered a CC win or a GF win, I would forfeit the benchmark and take Wembley over Old Trafford every single time.
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| Quote ="Saint #1"Yeah but the 'big prize' has only been won by 3. [size=200For me,[/size you can't class yourself as a big club until you win a Grand Final. Being a big club means frequent success, and how successful are you if you've never won the main competition?'"
But we don't care what [size=150you[/size think, as this is a Warrington page.
Kindly love off, as we clearly don't measure up to your lofty threshold
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| .....and we still wouldn't have come from inbred gypsies.
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| Quote ="The Reaper"You actually think the ball was stolen there? Seriously??
As for what Masoe did... Does anybody [uREALLY[/u think that was a punch? He raised his arm which made it look a bit pantomimey, yes, but he was clearly just trying to get more momentum behind him when he slammed down in the tackle. Which is kind of harsh, yeah, but certainly not illegal as far as I'm aware and certainly not worthy of a sending off as some people have LAUGHABLY suggested. A punch?! xD Yeah, he deffo went to punch the back of his own man
Can you not at least lose with some dignity? Geez. It was a really good game and with some more composure, you quite easily could have won it. If the rumours are true about you getting a halfback before the deadline, you could easily sneak into that top 4 for the play-offs and then anything can happen. It's not all doom and gloom!'"
and you probably think that robys try was fine when he clearly lost it...its probably the norm for you lot getting dodgy decisions off refs and video refs
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| I think a big must when the play offs start is to watch videos of certain opponents & see how they bend the rules without being penalised ,then when matchday comes around do the same as them.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"I can't argue the point if you say that is the benchmark.
However, if I was offered a CC win or a GF win, I would forfeit the benchmark and take Wembley over Old Trafford every single time.'"
Fair enough, I started watching in 1997 so having grown up during the Super League era, I probably place more emphasis on the Grand Final compared to people who got into the game in earlier years.
Quote ="ninearches"I think a big must when the play offs start is to watch videos of certain opponents & see how they bend the rules without being penalised ,then when matchday comes around do the same as them.'"
I was told a few years back Tony Smith's video sessions are about 3 hours long. I'd be amazed if they don't already do this.
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| Quote ="ninearches"I think a big must when the play offs start is to watch videos of certain opponents & see how they bend the rules without being penalised ,then when matchday comes around do the same as them.'"
believe they only watch videos of sts and the thugs on how to bend the rules....
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