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| Thewlis was faultless tonight, his link up play is developing, and he was a threat with ball in hand, a la ratch.
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"Thewlis was faultless tonight, his link up play is developing, and he was a threat with ball in hand, a la ratch.'"
Since it’s a Tom Lineham thread, I think it’s only fair to say that Lineham is also ‘a threat with ball in hand’. For different uncomfortable reasons.
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| One thing I do like with all the youngsters, and was also evident last year against Salford, is the total enthusiasm they have when playing.
Having some experience around them last night really helped, but it is all very encouraging going forward - especially with a coach who has a reputation for develpping players.
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| Frustrating to see how good Lineham is when he sticks to his job.
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"Thewlis was faultless tonight, his link up play is developing, and he was a threat with ball in hand, a la ratch.'"
Looks promising, seems like he's been playing at the level for years, need to see that link up play develop that Ratch plays so well at times. Looks to be well timed too, Ratch will be 34 by the time his contract expires next season and though I think he could well get another year or so - as I think he would be a useful squad player even if he wasn't first choice full back at that stage - Thewlis at 20 / 21 will be well placed to pick up the baton.
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| Quote ="just_browny"Frustrating to see how good Lineham is when he sticks to his job.'"
No doubting that he's a good winger (disciplinary issues aside), a lot depends on his salary, which I imagine would be fairly decent and what Powell wants going forwards. Powell has had a habit in the past few years to turn wingers who were a little unfancied in to try scorers - Solomona / Eden / Olpherts. Maybe he wants less cap spend on the wings and more elsewhere.
Would Manfredi be an option for us? Serious injury concerns obviously over the past few years, but if you could pick him up on a modest salary as a potential back up to Charnley / Ashton might be worth a shot? Just as long as you weren't expecting him to be first choice. If Tom Davies was an option though, would definitely go for that.
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| Quote ="fez1"One thing I do like with all the youngsters, and was also evident last year against Salford, is the total enthusiasm they have when playing.
Having some experience around them last night really helped, but it is all very encouraging going forward - especially with a coach who has a reputation for develpping players.'"
whosat then?
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| Quote ="Philth"My perception is the opposite really. Slow, cumbersome rarely breaks a tackle and unable to track back if there's a break on. Bit of a poor mans Ryan Hall.
Any stats to show I'm wrong in any of it? Genuine question.
I will say in his defence that we don't play a winger's game of Rugby and we have a couple of centres who like to run with ball in hand on the edges so maybe a team with a set sweeping move or 3 will see him fall over the line a bit more'"
Utter nonsense
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| Quote ="just_browny"Frustrating to see how good Lineham is when he sticks to his job.'"
Exactly another very good display from him last night, didn’t put a foot wrong & took his interception try very well. Since his ban he’s been solid and hasn’t missed a best.. shame to lose him on these type of performances.
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| Quote ="Philth"My perception is the opposite really. Slow, cumbersome rarely breaks a tackle and unable to track back if there's a break on. Bit of a poor mans Ryan Hall.
Any stats to show I'm wrong in any of it? Genuine question.
I will say in his defence that we don't play a winger's game of Rugby and we have a couple of centres who like to run with ball in hand on the edges so maybe a team with a set sweeping move or 3 will see him fall over the line a bit more'"
I was going to say this is a very harsh criticism, but in fact I think it isn’t describing the Tom Lineham I watch.
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| In the pecking order of Wire wingers of the Super League era I reckon you have Hicks, Joel Monaghan, Matt King when he played as a winger then Lineham is the best of the rest, ahead of Riley, Fa'afili, Charnley.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"In the pecking order of Wire wingers of the Super League era I reckon you have Hicks, Joel Monaghan, Matt King when he played as a winger then Lineham is the best of the rest, ahead of Riley, Fa'afili, Charnley.'"
Agree with this, Lineham is a very good player. I feel he is treated harshly by the disciplinary panel but then again he keeps giving them the opportunity to be harsh on him. With good discipline no way would I want him to be leaving wire, he's definitely not past it.
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| I do think that last night he took his responsibilities as a senior pro seriously and maybe that is part of his (belated) growing up.
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| Quote ="Captain Hook"I do think that last night he took his responsibilities as a senior pro seriously and maybe that is part of his (belated) growing up.'"
Easy to forget he's still only 28. Could have a brilliant 4 years or so ahead of him.
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| Quote ="Captain Hook"I do think that last night he took his responsibilities as a senior pro seriously and maybe that is part of his (belated) growing up.'"
Or playing for a contract. All players seem to up their game when out of contract.
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| Quote ="Shazbaz"Or playing for a contract. All players seem to up their game when out of contract.'"
Lineham has consistently been a very solid performer. It's the disciplinary bit that's let him down.
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| He does have brain explosions when he has to think what to do in defence rather than just react.
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| I do rate him but wish he would stay upright for longer when carrying the ball. I'm sure he lifts more weight in the gym than most other players. Why not barge into defenders the way Sita does. Goes low too soon for me. His interceptions are brilliant watching him run the 90m he seems to do with ease as well. I think he is fitter than he actually looks.
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| Quote ="Shazbaz"I do rate him but wish he would stay upright for longer when carrying the ball. I'm sure he lifts more weight in the gym than most other players. Why not barge into defenders the way Sita does. Goes low too soon for me. His interceptions are brilliant watching him run the 90m he seems to do with ease as well. I think he is fitter than he actually looks.'"
Please don't encourage him to run like Sita. Saddened will be apoplectic.
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| Quote ="Man2wolf"Please don't encourage him to run like Sita. Saddened will be apoplectic.'"
His pitchfork is still raised, and his torch is still alight on that matter.
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Admire his honesty. This isn't his forever home, he's thinking about his future and wants to bow out with a ring. Can't really argue with any of it, at least he's not sulking.
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Admire his honesty. This isn't his forever home, he's thinking about his future and wants to bow out with a ring. Can't really argue with any of it, at least he's not sulking.
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| Think there is a bit of tongue in cheek going on as well with the “bromance” thing with SP!
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| He is a good player weighed down by foolishness. I am in two minds about his leaving but at least it will provide clarity and the musical chairs between Thewliss, Ashton and Ratchford will finally come to an end as it should place Ashton on the wing and Thewliss gradually stepping into Ratchfords (still warm) boots.
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| Agar wants him at Leeds.
Rather him there than at Pies or Saints.
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