Dobson = panic buy and not the answer long term. We need to stick with what we`ve got for the rest of the season, then, if things dont improve , see whats available during the close season.

I Agree about Bridge's kicking skills.

It was only last year when we played Hull In the Semi. One of his "tactical" kicks led to an awesome try .

It was. Disaster and yet another couple of inches and it was game set match.

In all honesty you can't just blame Bridge for the semi final defeat.....that was the day many people realised how poor the team really were. If Bridge's kick had come off he would have been called world class.

I wasnt blaming him . The whole team were rubbish that day.

Im just pointing out his kicking capabilities are awesome

As you quite rightly point out.. Bridge has the kicking ability of Heather Mills.

As a goal kicker he probably rated 5/10 on a good day.

As a kicker with ball in hand, he would be lucky to rate a 2/10

Superman
I understand your apprehension but if we require field position if where defensively deep, I would like to see Bridge kick as opposed to Myler at present.
Mylers deep kicking game is poor at best at the moment. I would leave him with the short kicking game as Bridge wont be in a position for it.

Seriously I'd be the last person to actually slate bridge as a player but the fact he has to nearly stand still to kick in play would cause major issues

I dont know what % kick or missed Bridgey has but im fairly confident he's has a better record than 50% this season!

see, again i have to pick you up as being wrong, bridge's kicking game is shocking, he's visibly uncomfortable when kicking, and has only one kick which is this lofted backspin which is easy pickings for any wingers or full backs to get underneath and return.

I don't think you have ever agreed on anything I have said....until now.

Dont take it personal, its not personal, it just so happens that your bizarre revisionist view point on the career of Chris Bridge stands out quite noticeably and i feel i must call BS on.

And its not just you, we've had this with Padders on here as well. Who has called him rotten time after time after time, quite innaccurately as well.

If different things are not quite clicking ,such as field & tactical kicking you would expect it to improve with extra practice.

I haven't dished Bridge...? He isn't in the form of 2012 but he has the quality somewhere, I'd just like to see him given an opportunity to show it.

What does BS mean?

crikey when did Hull Kr grace old trafford with super star pairing Dobson and Burns...??

Michael Dobson was a stop gap for Catalan when they finished bottom of the league, he was then a stop gap for wigan While they fought off relegation. He got a full time gig at Canberra and finished in the bottom three. He then went to hull Kr and bar one season they have finished middle/bottom of the table. He has now gone to Newcastle knights as back up to a state of origin player in Jarrod Mullin and a young scrum half in Tyrone Roberts.

he's a "Stop Gap"...... we don't need one

if your ditching a former test and origin winger and a top class hooker don't replace them with journeymen like Dobson and Burns......

poor mans danny mcguire ......love off

He knows how to get a team around the park,great organisational skills,pretty good kicking game too.
Of which myler has none.
Burns i like quite a bit because he's got that fire in his belly, a bit of mongrel. Not scared to ruffle feathers, wears his heart on his sleeve.

And both good goal kickers.
not big time Charlie's,just grafters.
Worked for Wigan.

Chris Bridge at 6???.....

- Why on earth should we do that?

Tony Smith has done many things during his time at Wire that could be considered a masterstroke, but one of his biggest was making sure Bridge never saw the stand-off position again and got moved to become a pretty decent centre (gained international honours after all).

Fair DSM.
I said earlier that he slipped in well at centre like whittle woods davis blake have before him.
It was imo because he was next to Briers be it at 6 or at 3.
They worked so well together. Briers would look for Bridge before he would would go left.

I think he slipped in well at centre because he is a centre...



By your strange logic, Mark Roberts should have been a top class stand off because he worked really well with Andy Gregory....

To be fair I can see RDs logic, I think Bridge is still when one our more dangerous players when he's in the mood but those occasions are few and far between these days and most of the time hs scares the bejeezus out of me. However, if we're judging him on an abject kicking game and suspect decision making, and apply that logic to everyone else who has lined up at 6/7 this year they'd all be sat in the South Stand and Asotasi would be lining up in the halves.

Personally I'm still hoping GOB will come good but I seem to be in a fan club of one these days.

The issue with Bridge in the halves is it has been tried a lot and he never convinced there. I don't know where rubber duckie has got this idea that he was brilliant there. There certainly weren't many arguments on here when he got moved in to the centres.

He played over 60 games in the halves for us mostly alongside Briers. Pretty much the whole of the 2006 season and half the 2007 season he was there, as well as a few games in 2005. Obviously everyone remembers the game when he came of age at Odsal and tore them up in the second half but he did not repeat that very often, he had a handful of good games and a lot of the time he was ordinary there.

The same criticisms were made about Bridge as are made about Myler - he didn't look like he could control a game. His kicking game was nothing special, he was a good runner with the ball in his hands and could break the line but that was it. His strengths got better used when he moved to centre and it was at centre he became for a couple of seasons one of the best players in SL, at a time that coincided with us being at our peak as a team.

There was also a brief experiment of Bridge at fullback too, I think it was Cullen's last season. It was the plan to play him there, he was there in pre-season and looked good there, then he played one game and got injured for the season if I remember.

I have a lot of time for Bridge for the same reason I have a lot of time for Briers - there were loads of people writing him off saying he wasted his talent, was a problem off the field or whatever, and then he worked hard to become a top player over time and proved his doubters wrong. But I think you have to use him in the outside backs, I don't think he's a player that can run a game like Briers could. I think he might be past his peak though now.

What is interesting here is to compare and contrast Myler & Ratchford with the halves at the two clubs who have been by far and away the best teams in the comp this year: Leeds & Saints.

Saints first choice halves, though they do tend to rotate, are Walsh & Hohaia.
Leeds' are McGuire & Sinfield.

What these have in common is a superb kicking game (Walsh & Sinfield particularly), and both are playing behind a very dominant set of forwards. Additionally they gain additional impetus from Lomax at FB for Saints, and Burrow as a utility at Leeds. Hohaia was panned by Saints fans all last year but was still considered better than Lomax, and people have been questioning Sinfield's credentials as a stand-off for years (me included) so it's hardly as if they the individuals concerned are light years ahead of everyone else.

What I do know is that on paper Ratchford & Myler are more than a match for any of those. What I also know is that on-grass they are currently a country mile off their counterparts.

Quote ="morrisseyisawire"What is interesting here is to compare and contrast Myler & Ratchford with the halves at the two clubs who have been by far and away the best teams in the comp this year: Leeds & Saints. Saints first choice halves, though they do tend to rotate, are Walsh & Hohaia. Leeds' are McGuire & Sinfield. What these have in common is a superb kicking game (Walsh & Sinfield particularly), and both are playing behind a very dominant set of forwards. Additionally they gain additional impetus from Lomax at FB for Saints, and Burrow as a utility at Leeds. Hohaia was panned by Saints fans all last year but was still considered better than Lomax, and people have been questioning Sinfield's credentials as a stand-off for years (me included) so it's hardly as if they the individuals concerned are light years ahead of everyone else. What I do know is that on paper Ratchford & Myler are more than a match for any of those. What I also know is that on-grass they are currently a country mile off their counterparts.'" Tony Smith believes they are getting better. I'm glad it wasn't just me who thought Myler played well last week. www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/spo ... he_season/

Quote ="morrisseyisawire"What is interesting here is to compare and contrast Myler & Ratchford with the halves at the two clubs who have been by far and away the best teams in the comp this year: Leeds & Saints. Saints first choice halves, though they do tend to rotate, are Walsh & Hohaia. Leeds' are McGuire & Sinfield. What these have in common is a superb kicking game (Walsh & Sinfield particularly), and both are playing behind a very dominant set of forwards. Additionally they gain additional impetus from Lomax at FB for Saints, and Burrow as a utility at Leeds. Hohaia was panned by Saints fans all last year but was still considered better than Lomax, and people have been questioning Sinfield's credentials as a stand-off for years (me included) so it's hardly as if they the individuals concerned are light years ahead of everyone else. What I do know is that on paper Ratchford & Myler are more than a match for any of those. What I also know is that on-grass they are currently a country mile off their counterparts.'" Tony Smith believes they are getting better. I'm glad it wasn't just me who thought Myler played well last week. www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/spo ... he_season/

Wilkin and McGuire are dangerous kickers too, so Saints and Leeds have good second option kickers as well.

Wilkin? I've never seen a SL player touch him with regards to a player being able to put a high bomb up only for it to hit the kicking player on his head on the way down. Pure quality!!!!