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| A massive Wigan fan Wiggins as well which is great exposure for Rl. true champion.
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| Great so we will have to have the BBC gushing their praise to some dude that rides a bike....what about all the many deserving rugby league players that will be once again overlooked for Sports Personality of the Year?
Sorry Sam Tomkins you're in the wrong sport if you want to get media recognition.
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| Sam Tomkins is on first name terms with Sir Bradley.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"Great so we will have to have the BBC gushing their praise to some dude that rides a bike....what about all the many deserving rugby league players that will be once again overlooked for Sports Personality of the Year?
Sorry Sam Tomkins you're in the wrong sport if you want to get media recognition.'"
Stefan Ratchford gets my vote over RatBoy
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| Heard the radio commentary of Wiggins powering home, and it brought a lump to the throat. FANTASTIC.
Slightly aside. Swimming, rowing, cycling and most form of athletics, is (as someone once said) sport for the talentless. You don't need to be skillful, just have a MASSIVE lung capacity, and spend ages in the gym.....BUT
AND IT'S A MASSIVE BUT
We have world leaders in these sports, and I for one, am made up.
Rule, Britannia (and #### off with all this Team GB, cobblers. It's GREAT BRITAIN, ffs )
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| Quote ="mark_m"Sam Tomkins is on first name terms with Sir Bradley.'"
Bradley's son was at Sam's training day a week or so back.
RL and Wigan NEED to use his RL appreciation as much as possible.
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| Quote ="mark_m"Sam Tomkins is on first name terms with Sir Bradley.'"
So what.
I'm on first name terms with Tomkins. Unfortunately, my mum will tell me off, if I use such language, and a Bobby will clip me round the ear, if he hears me using that word.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Bradley's son was at Sam's training day a week or so back.
RL and Wigan NEED to use his RL appreciation as much as possible.'"
Call him Tomkins FFS, you're not his Dad. All wigan fans getting wet dick cause he has a Wigan bootbag. Cringeworthy.
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| Apart from a bit of publicity, I don't see how they can use Wiggins to promote RL or Wigan.
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| We've had Test Cricketers seeen at RL matches in the past (Botham, Fairbrother, Stewart and most recently, Broad)
also international footballers
and now, it's name dropped that a bloke on a bike (a bloody good un, tho) is a RL fan....
plus ca change
NEXT!
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| Quote ="Ian 77 Redux"Apart from a bit of publicity, I don't see how they can use Wiggins to promote RL or Wigan.'"
same as all the publicity they were going to get from that movie that was going to be made about gareth thomas when it looked like wigan were signing him.
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"
Slightly aside. Swimming, rowing, cycling and most form of athletics, is (as someone once said) sport for the talentless. You don't need to be skillful, just have a MASSIVE lung capacity, and spend ages in the gym.....'"
to quote Withnail and I...."what chuffer said that?"
they are clearly s of the grandest order.....I'm not a swimming fan and i don't stand by this Phelps love in either. The swimmers appear in so many variations of their sports the medal tally's they can attain are silly. its like Usain Blot appearing in a 60m 100m 150m 200m race and then a relay of each event and then going wow 8 medals that's extraordinary that marathon runner only got one the loser.
but back on Swimming the absolute perfection of each and every stroke is simply amazing. they don't just dive in a slap around.
compare that to English International footballers that cant hit a huge target from 12 yards away under no physical pressure ........
thats due to technique, if they trained with the same dedication as swimmers or track and field athletes they may be better.....
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"
Slightly aside. Swimming, rowing, cycling and most form of athletics, is (as someone once said) sport for the talentless.
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I bet the someone who said that was crap at sport.
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| Quote ="Mark"Call him Tomkins FFS, you're not his Dad. All wigan fans getting wet dick cause he has a Wigan bootbag. Cringeworthy.
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So petulant!! Call him what the f*** you like, you can call him gator face for me. That won’t change the fact that he is one of the best, if not the best in SL?
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| Quote ="pies-r-us"So petulant!! Call him what the f*** you like, you can call him gator face for me. That won’t change the fact that he is one of the best, if not the best in SL?
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-true- he proved that in your cc semi final against leeds -
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"
but back on Swimming the absolute perfection of each and every stroke is simply amazing. they don't just dive in a slap around.
compare that to English International footballers that cant hit a huge target from 12 yards away under no physical pressure ........
thats due to technique, if they trained with the same dedication as swimmers or track and field athletes they may be better.....'"
Swimmers and other GB Olympians continue to win gold medals in their ( apparently skill-free ) disciplines . England's mega-skilful wendyballers have won sod-all since 1966. The conclusion isn't difficult to reach.
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| Quote ="Asgardian13"Swimmers and other GB Olympians continue to win gold medals in their ( apparently skill-free ) disciplines . England's mega-skilful wendyballers have won sod-all since 1966. The conclusion isn't difficult to reach.'"
doesn't that kind of prove his point?
England aren't skilled enough (not enough people, not as well trained, not as devoted as those in Brazil, Spain, Argentina) to beat those who are genuine class
You notice that states with a high population and vast wealth (USA, China, Germany) are the best at the 'unskilled' sports- swimming etc
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| Here come the cyclists....
Awesome but a cock up in the womens sprint.
I still expect a haul of medals.
2 World Records already
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| Chinese girl breaks world record in the swimming...people saying shes a drug cheat.
British bloke finishes 2nd in the swimming ( world record smashed by 1st and 2nd), British bloke knocks 2 seconds off his personal best...people saying it was a great swim. No mention of drugs involved... Hypocrisy.
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| Quote ="Live Wired"Chinese girl breaks world record in the swimming...people saying shes a drug cheat.
British bloke finishes 2nd in the swimming ( world record smashed by 1st and 2nd), British bloke knocks 2 seconds off his personal best...people saying it was a great swim. No mention of drugs involved... Hypocrisy.'"
It was an American coach who accused the athlete. The British and Olympic bodies stood by the strict drug testing procedures. How's that hypocritical from the British? Usain Bolt, cheat or just a freak?
Anyone who beats their PB or finishes in the top 4 are automatically tested plus random tests too. Any cheats will be caught.
Winds me up people who put down others superb efforts after years of training.
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| Quote ="jdrocket"doesn't that kind of prove his point?
England aren't skilled enough (not enough people, not as well trained, not as devoted as those in Brazil, Spain, Argentina) to beat those who are genuine class
You notice that states with a high population and vast wealth (USA, China, Germany) are the best at the 'unskilled' sports- swimming etc'"
Ryan Giggs the most skilled athlete at these Olympics games then, you happy with that ?
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| The Chinese athletes are trained into the ground, and their government throw money at even the smallest sport, just so that they are the best in the world, it's hardly surprising.
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| I am sorry I refuse to believe the Chinese dont 'bend' the rules.
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| Quote ="mark_m"I am sorry I refuse to believe the Chinese dont 'bend' the rules.'"
They may well do, they may have super chemists with undectable drugs or body enhancements but at the same time regardless, their athletes still have to train very very hard.
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| Quote ="mark_m"I am sorry I refuse to believe the Chinese dont 'bend' the rules.'"
They don't need to though - they have a massive population to draw athletes from, they have vast sums of cash to throw at every sport in the olympics, and they are all about nationalism (same reason North Korea are punching above their weight in the medal table). Nationalism is great for getting your population behind your government when they might otherwise object, and international events like the Olympics are the perfect focus for this - take a look at the medal table for the 1936 games for the best example.
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