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| Quote ="Odemwingie"Rubbish! Saints dealt with pretty much everything wire threw at them.
Wire won the pen count 13-6.'"
If I take your comment literally, that would imply we either:
a) didn't score tries, or:
b) fluked four scores
Which one is it?
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| Quote ="Mass Effect"So that's a 12-9 penalty count I've heard we won, a 13-6 one and an 11-8 one.
Which one is it then?
And anyway Rogues, I believe the poster you quoted was questioning the areas in which the penalties were given, not how many penalties were given.'"
Saints received three penalties on the first tackle. When it is even, it where, not how many that makes the difference.
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| Quote ="Blobbynator"First big game in how many years? We were waiting to take you in the Grand Final, but you couldn't even make the Play Offs.'"
Right. So Saints didn't really want to get to the CC Final?
I will reiterate; you are an imbecile.
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| Quote ="Mass Effect"So that's a 12-9 penalty count I've heard we won, a 13-6 one and an 11-8 one.
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And anyway Rogues, I believe the poster you quoted was questioning the areas in which the penalties were given, not how many penalties were given.'"
The 12 - 9 figure was from todays League Express
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| What's the obsession with the penalty count determining which team a referee 'favoured'?
Hyperthetical situation...
Team A v Team B.
Team A receives 10 penalties which are all awarded inside their own 20 on the 1st tackle.
Team B receives 5 penalties but they are awarded inside Team A's 20 on the 5th tackle.
Question 1
WHich team would be quoted as having won the penalty count?
Question 2
Which team gained greater advantage from the penalties given?
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| What's the obsession with referees generally?
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"Right. So Saints didn't really want to get to the CC Final?
I will reiterate; you are an imbecile.'"
Of course we did. Unfortunately we drew Hudds rather than our perennial easy beats, but that's the nature of the Cup.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Warrington won the penalty count 12 - 9.'"
I was trying to comment on the fact that he wasn't refereeing the game based on the simple idea of giving a penalty when he saw one. I was able to predict that a penalty would be given against us in the next 2 or 3 tackles based on how much pressure Saints were under. I did so 3 times. There was so much going on in that game that he could have stopped for a penalty at pretty much any play of the ball that he wanted. I just thought it odd that I could pick out when he would do so.
All that said, We didn't deserve to win the game, any direction whatsoever from our half backs in the last 10 mins would have seen us win. Unfortunately there was none.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"I will reiterate; you are an imbecile.'"
The feeling is very much mutual.
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| That was our worst performance of the season and from what I am hearing from Saints fans, was one of their best, plus they had a full strength side.
Referee gave some strange decisions.
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| Quote ="JWP"It was the final the public wanted wasn't it. '"
I do believe it was, yes.
Quote I know it was the final that I wanted. '"
Same here.
Quote If we were to get there again this year, I really sincerely hope it'd be against your lot, and I know that there's a greater risk of heartache with your lot, but I want it to feel like a final. '"
That's it. We've had that with Leeds in the Grand Finals of the last three years. There is real competition and rivalry (although to be fair on the third occasion those Saints fans like me who braved it probably felt a similar feeling to Wire fans turning up at Knowsley Road!). From a Wire perspective, to do us at the Wembley final would probably feel a zillion times better than at Knowsley Road (because of the hoodoo) and from our perspective to keep the hoodoo going at a Wembley final would feel even better than keeping it going at Knowsley Road. So I think that twist to the tale would have given the final an extra zing that any other meeting (bar both of us with Wigan) would have lacked. IMO, obviously.
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| Quote ="TF and the wire"That was our worst performance of the season and from what I am hearing from Saints fans, was one of their best, plus they had a full strength side.'"
I can't speak for Wire's performance as I haven't watched them every week but it was certainly Saints' best performance. Not that we were technically brilliant - we made too many mistakes for that - but we played as a unit and also we found some real determination after you came back at us with those quickfire tries that I haven't seen in the Saints team since about halfway through last season. That alone was very, very encouraging.
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| thought i was on the scousers forum for a mo,listening to all these gloating scousers on here..makes up for winning naff all last season
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| Quote ="Les Boyd Is God"thought i was on the scousers forum for a mo,listening to all these gloating scousers on here..makes up for winning naff all last season'"
As soon as you catch up to our level, thats 7 cups in 14 seasons, come back and gloat. Until then...
Even Sheffield won it once....
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| Quote ="MSH"As soon as you catch up to our level, thats 7 cups in 14 seasons, come back and gloat. Until then...
Even Sheffield won it once....'"
new i`d get a scouser to bite
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| Quote ="The All New Chester Wire"What's the obsession with referees generally?'"
It's a way to avoid responsibility. Rather blame a 3rd party than admit the better team won (as was the case).
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| Quote ="The All New Chester Wire"What's the obsession with referees generally?'"
Attendance was good?
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| If we're such a small club. Why do people get so giddy when they beat us?
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| Quote ="Jint"If we're such a small club. Why do people get so giddy when they beat us?'"
I noticed that on Friday night. Celebrating like it was a Grand Final win. Same with the Wigan lot at our gaff in February.
I just love how everyone brands us a "small club", but yet always wants to discuss us. We're even more hated than Leeds fans, and to be perfectly honest, I couldn't give a crap.
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| Quote ="Mass Effect"I noticed that on Friday night. Celebrating like it was a Grand Final win.'"
Don't flatter yourself. Then again you wouldn't know what celebrating a Grand Final win looks like, so I'll forgive you.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Don't flatter yourself. Then again you wouldn't know what celebrating a Grand Final win looks like, so I'll forgive you.'"
Oh please, you need a lot better material than that if you want me to at least attempt to bite.
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| Quote ="Mass Effect"Oh please, you need a lot better material than that if you want me to at least attempt to bite.
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If you think that win meant anything like as much as beating Wigan to the vast majority of Saints fans living outside of Newton, you're deluded.
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| Quote ="Jint"If we're such a small club. Why do people get so giddy when they beat us?'"
...or start cringeworthy 8 page threads about how everyone hates us so much.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Don't flatter yourself. Then again you wouldn't know what celebrating a Grand Final win looks like, so I'll forgive you.'"
No need for forgiveness. The Grand Final is a reincarnation of the Premiership Final.
Again, for clarity, RL did exist pre-SL.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"No need for forgiveness. The Grand Final is a reincarnation of the Premiership Final.'"
I must have missed the Premiership Final deciding the season champions.
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