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| Despite being done at the death, I thought that was one of our better performances this season. We carried the ball and defended with more vigour, but still seem to back off a bit too much when defending our flanks. Peter Mata'utia made good yards by running forwards rather than sideways, but I only saw him pass once during the game, with around 1 minute left. We need to bring some attacking threat to our right edge, otherwise were too easy to defend against as defences know where we'll be attacking.
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| In a strange way i quite enjoyed the match. It showed we were prepared to work hard and but for some questionable refereeing decisions we would’ve won. I’m loathe to criticise refs normally…but Currie sin bin? Forward passes called by the crowd. That 6 again where i felt the Hull player moved forward but would need to see it again. As for that try???
However this was a major step forward in Thewlis’s development. I thought our pack stood up to Hull’s bigger men. 2 games in a short turnaround looked too much for Widdop. Longstaff seems very strong for a lighter looking bloke.
As for issues in the camp, there is a reason that “change management” plays a big part in all areas of management. Getting people to buy in takes a while.
So, disappointed with the defeat but not downhearted.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"No apologies needed. I post what I hear and be dammed. Tbh, I wish I was wrong.'"
Nope he was wrong, as I said he’ll be back for the Huddersfield match.
Oh God…..I’m wasting time here again aren’t I. Doh…
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| Quote ="DallasMead2"Nope he was wrong, as I said he’ll be back for the Huddersfield match.
Oh God…..I’m wasting time here again aren’t I. Doh…'"
Which is the weekend nearest May 1st.
I’ve no question about him being ready for Hudds, I had liked your post and said I hope I’m wrong.
Following on you jibed on about me being nostrodarmous and no IQ because he was in the squad for Hull last week. Now you have seemingly forgotten that, and I’m still wrong.
If he plays v Hudds I’ll be very happy to be wrong, but we’ll both be wrong…but unlike you. I don’t actually give a shiitake while you’re voicing and bouncing off the walls pal.
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| Right, I'm drawing a line under this one, both of you move on
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| Was Magoulias dropped for this game or was he injured?
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| Quote ="Boss Hog"Was Magoulias dropped for this game or was he injured?'"
He warmed up as 18th man. Could have been that Powell felt that he needed some fresh legs and that Magoulias was the furthest away from being 100%?
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| Jace Clark was one of the best forwards anyway, perhaps it’s pack rotation.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Jace Clark was one of the best forwards anyway, perhaps it’s pack rotation.'"
He did have a good game for us, i think he'll stay in the squad for awhile with Hughes now out
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| Quote ="Or thane"He did have a good game for us, i think he'll stay in the squad for awhile with Hughes now out
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he was ok, i was truly baffled to see him on the chase for that chip that ratch did.
I thought longstaff was a bit of a passenger yesterday, i saw someone on FB saying he had an outstanding game, i must have missed that.
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| Quote ="Or thane"He did have a good game for us, i think he'll stay in the squad for awhile with Hughes now out
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Jason Clark is consistent and works his socks off. Teams need players like him
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat" I thought longstaff was a bit of a passenger yesterday, i saw someone on FB saying he had an outstanding game, i must have missed that.'"
Agreed, I think if Hughes had stayed on he would have prevented that try by Hannibal Lecter .
Longstaff has a big future in the game though and he will become a dominant player in our squad.
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| Quote ="Boss Hog"Agreed, I think if Hughes had stayed on he would have prevented that try by Hannibal Lecter .
Longstaff has a big future in the game though and he will become a dominant player in our squad.'"
this is something i've noticed recently (and i am aware i'm the resident debbie downer on ellis) i know everyone is high on him, and he did alright last year filling in, this season he just seems more undersized and doesnt seem to take the ball in and is more of a steve price style shirt filler.
now granted this is an unfair comparison in terms of appearances but if you compare individual performances between him and thewlis, its night and day at the moment.
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| On the subject of Fash the Inhaler was I the only person baffled that K Brown selected him as MoM?
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"this is something i've noticed recently (and i am aware i'm the resident debbie downer on ellis) i know everyone is high on him, and he did alright last year filling in, this season he just seems more undersized and doesnt seem to take the ball in and is more of a steve price style shirt filler.
now granted this is an unfair comparison in terms of appearances but if you compare individual performances between him and thewlis, its night and day at the moment.'"
Thewlis and Ashton are very high benchmarks and i agree that Longstaff is behind those two, as they are the finished article as regular starters, more to come hopefully to take them to international level BUT "night and day" is a bit harsh IMO as I think Longstaff is meeting expectations without damning him with faint praise.
There's no doubting he's got the skill set and from what I've seen a wonderful attitude but a decent run of games this season and couple of stone wouldn't go amiss
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| Crushing to lose in that manner.
Enjoyed it for what it was… both games this weekend have seen a bit more oomph.
Sky punditry is a bit poor isn’t it ?!
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| Quote ="ShropshireWire"Crushing to lose in that manner.
Enjoyed it for what it was… both games this weekend have seen a bit more oomph.
[uSky punditry is a bit poor isn’t it[/u ?!'"
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"I think you're being rather generous to them. They're awful.'"
I don’t have a lot to compare to but it was grating at times
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"I think you're being rather generous to them. They're awful.'"
He's new.
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| Quote ="Uncle Rico"Thewlis and Ashton are very high benchmarks and i agree that Longstaff is behind those two, as they are the finished article as regular starters, more to come hopefully to take them to international level BUT "night and day" is a bit harsh IMO as I think Longstaff is meeting expectations without damning him with faint praise.
There's no doubting he's got the skill set and from what I've seen a wonderful attitude but a decent run of games this season and couple of stone wouldn't go amiss'"
He's still only 18, loads more to come from him, he's not been incredible when he has played really this season but as we have said on other threads you have to take the rough with the smooth with younger players whilst they develop their game. I think he is potentially a very good player but understandably he has a long way to go.
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| Thewlis has already shown he's a better fullback than ratchford(and will probably be dropped when Williams is fit). And longstaff already offers more than our 'captain'. These 2(and wrench)need to play as much as possible this season.
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| Quote ="Moe syslak"Thewlis has already shown he's a better fullback than ratchford(and will probably be dropped when Williams is fit). And longstaff already offers more than our 'captain'. These 2(and wrench)need to play as much as possible this season.'"
The way Matautia is playing for us, he has more go forward than any of our backrowers.
Powell should move him from centre, to allow Wrench to play there.
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| Quote ="Moe syslak"Thewlis has already shown he's a better fullback than ratchford(and will probably be dropped when Williams is fit). And longstaff already offers more than our 'captain'. These 2(and wrench)need to play as much as possible this season.'"
Hughes went off with what looked a bad injury, he may be out for awhile.
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| Quote ="karetaker"Hughes went off with what looked a bad injury, he may be out for awhile.'"
Dislocated shoulder. No doubt he’ll get scanned this week, once any swelling has gone down, and the medical team can make an assessment.
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| Quote ="Moe syslak"Thewlis has already shown he's a better fullback than ratchford(and will probably be dropped when Williams is fit). And longstaff already offers more than our 'captain'. These 2(and wrench)need to play as much as possible this season.'"
It’s an interesting choice for Powell this week and I hope he is bold. Thewlis has surely earned his place to remain at the back and Ratchford to share time at 13 would be a positive compromise.
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