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| Quote ="Rob Wire"I`m not normally a fan of signing players of this age especially when we have quite a few players already hovering around the 30+ age group, but in saying that if Rhys Evans is as good as people say he is then its a smart move from Tony Smith.
Brett Hodgson doesn`t play like a player in the latter years of his career, he still looks fresh and his performances speak for themselves. It gives Rhys Evans the chance to learn from a proven world class fullback whilst he continues his development as a player, at the same time we get a recent man of steel winner in our line up. The only slight negative is his injuries, he seems to have picked up a few in recent times.'"
Exactly, that's my take on it.
I'd be worried about the signing if we were going to build a team around Hodgson, like Hull are trying to do, which we aren't. He's an extra component of what we're trying to do, where we're trying to go.
Also, I'd be worried if Smith wasn't used to handling over 30's, when I say managing them, I mean their workload. He did this to great effect at Leeds, and has done so here, galvanising Solomona, Morley, Briers etc, so I have no worries.
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| Did people have there worries about Solomona ? again another great Signing
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Hmm
From the other thread brearley84 wrote
magic piano wrote
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But it's only Wigan fans isn't it.
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I stand by what I said, but..... In Smith We Trust.
Why are you so obsessed with everything Warrington ? I reckon your the biggest poster on our board by a country mile. Get a grip and concentrate on your own team.
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| I think it's a very good signing tbh. He is a great goal kicker and is a big reason why Huddersfield have been a top team the last few years.
Wire IMO need a proven goalkicker, a loose forward and a prop for next season and I think you will win something definitely (that's not saying you won't win something this year either btw ). You have the goal kicker now, and have replaced the weakest spot of your team. Astute signing, especially with Rhys Evans coming through.
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| Quote ="Jint"Why do opposition fans get wet dick whenever we sign somebody? Im still waiting for Wigan fans to comment on the overrated Myler.'"
Maybe you should read the thread entitled "Myler" on your board then.
Pretty sure I sung his praises on there
As for Hodgson, before it was official there were plenty on here concerned about his age and fitness as well, so I can't see how it's just Wigan fans complaining.
If it's true that Smith has brought him in not expecting him to play every game then fair enough, it may turn out to be a good move. But surely the fact that he's a quota player and must surely be coming as one of the highest paid at the club, you'd expect him to be the star player who plays every game (as much as possible). I'd be annoyed, for example, if we'd signed Barrett and then he'd only played half the games his first season because of niggly injuries or whatever. Big injuries are inevitable, like Carvell for example, but if you have a player who plays one week then misses the next it's surely a waste if that player is supposed to be one of your stars.
Saying that though I still expect you to be the team to beat next year with him in the side. I'd just worry that Hudds were willing to let him go over the sake of that extra year when they know him better than anyone (including Tony Smith).
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| less than 6 months ago(ish) this guy was voted as the best player in the competition FULL STOP..how on earth can it be anything other than a top signing?
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| Quote ="Paul2812"I stand by what I said, but..... In Smith We Trust.
Why are you so obsessed with everything Warrington ? I reckon your the biggest poster on our board by a country mile. Get a grip and concentrate on your own team.
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Don't flatter yourself, Rogues is on most boards.
Without derailing the thread, Hodgeson may well be a good signing, but surely he is more of a stop gap?? I would highlight Mathers as your weakest player atm (don't go getting all defensive either, or bring up any "thanx fot 100k, mathers is well gd" I look through your starting 13 and I can't see someone else I would target)
Hodgeson was a class fullback, and this signing suggests to me that you've got a good young fullback coming through who Smith rates. I don't get to watch many academy games, so I wouldn't know, but that's my guess.
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| Quote ="inside_man"Maybe you should read the thread entitled "Myler" on your board then.
Pretty sure I sung his praises on there
As for Hodgson, before it was official there were plenty on here concerned about his age and fitness as well, so I can't see how it's just Wigan fans complaining.
If it's true that Smith has brought him in not expecting him to play every game then fair enough, it may turn out to be a good move. But surely the fact that he's a quota player and [size=200must surely be coming as one of the highest paid at the club,[/size you'd expect him to be the star player who plays every game (as much as possible). I'd be annoyed, for example, if we'd signed Barrett and then he'd only played half the games his first season because of niggly injuries or whatever. Big injuries are inevitable, like Carvell for example, but if you have a player who plays one week then misses the next it's surely a waste if that player is supposed to be one of your stars.
Saying that though I still expect you to be the team to beat next year with him in the side. I'd just worry that Hudds were willing to let him go over the sake of that extra year when they know him better than anyone (including Tony Smith).'"
Can you clarify something for me? It is widely acknowledged that Hodgson has signed for the security of a two year (probably final) contract. When the same situation arose with Phil Bailey and yourselves it was widely reported he had taken a pay cut to gain a final contract.
Can you explain the differences in respect of renumeration?
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"Can you clarify something for me? It is widely acknowledged that Hodgson has signed for the security of a two year (probably final) contract. When the same situation arose with Phil Bailey and yourselves it was widely reported he had taken a pay cut to gain a final contract.
Can you explain the differences in respect of [size=150renumeration[/size?'"
Not like you GDMM. Remuneration.
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| Quote ="Wires71"Not like you GDMM. Remuneration.'"
I'm trying to multi-task. It never works out well.
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| Brown didn't sound too happy to lose him.
Enough said.
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| dont you just love those very bitter and jealous wiganers..last year hodgson was man of steel now he`s a stop gap signing..talking out of their hole again...be more concerned about your own mob.after all its quite a few years since you last won owt
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| If it's not been posted elsewhere, my predictions for 2011 are:-
James Lowes - Contract not renewed
Chris Hicks - Contract not renewed
Vinnie Anderson - Contract not renewed
Richard Mathers - Warrington RLFC
David Solomona - Warrington RLFC
Brett Hodgson - Warrington RLFC; Player/Assistant Manager, most of his salary paid as Assistant Manager?
2013 Brett Hodgson - Manager of Warrington Wolves RLFC
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| James Lowes is on the shortlist to become next Bradford manager i believe.
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| Quote ="Wire_74"James Lowes is on the shortlist to become next Bradford manager i believe.'"
Really ?
I thought they'd go back to Nobby, perhaps leave Iestyn at Crusaders with Jon Sharp as his number two.
If anything, maybe Lowes 'groomed' under Noble ...
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| Quote ="JWP"Really ?
I thought they'd go back to Nobby, perhaps leave Iestyn at Crusaders with Jon Sharp as his number two.
If anything, maybe Lowes 'groomed' under Noble ...'"
I believe so along with Brian McDermott and Stephen Kearney. He is 10/1 with some bookies aswell.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"Can you clarify something for me? It is widely acknowledged that Hodgson has signed for the security of a two year (probably final) contract. When the same situation arose with Phil Bailey and yourselves it was widely reported he had taken a pay cut to gain a final contract.
Can you explain the differences in respect of renumeration?'"
Because Bailey isn't the reigning MoS, wasn't moving clubs, and is an average player who's been kept around for his influence.
I don't really see the comparison with Bailey tbh, if i'm wrong about Hodgsons wage then fair enough. But surely you must assume he's not moving clubs for peanuts, even with the security of the two years?
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| Quote ="Brian Brady's Sideburns"If it's not been posted elsewhere, my predictions for 2011 are:-
James Lowes - Contract not renewed
Chris Hicks - Contract not renewed
Vinnie Anderson - Contract not renewed
Richard Mathers - Warrington RLFC
David Solomona - Warrington RLFC
[uBrett Hodgson - Warrington RLFC; Player/Assistant Manager, most of his salary paid as Assistant Manager?[/u
2013 Brett Hodgson - Manager of Warrington Wolves RLFC'"
haha, doesn't work like that.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"It's a risk that Wire are happy to take. Look at what's happened to long at Hull.
Time will tell if it's the correct decision or not.
I wouldn't have been happy had it been Wigan.'"
utter tosh! he's head and shoulders above any recent signing your club has made, you slagged king off when he first signed, monaghan when he played at 7.
tbh your statement just reinforces what a good signing he really is.
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| As a Giants fan I am sad to see Brett go but I think the Giants have made the right call on this, The reason for this is he will be 33 before he plays a game for you, he has played 7 out of 17 games for the Giants this season and is now out for another month.
If we had signed him for another year I would have been delighted, 2 years and it's a tough call but feel we have made the right one? this will become clear over the next 2 seasons after this one, as to if it was right or wrong.
You are getting a thinker, a great professional who is positionally brilliant and a great influence, but you are also getting a player who needs to be able to offload to someone when he has taken the high ball, chip thru or grubber cos the pace isn't there anymore but then again it wasn't when he won MOS either.
Whatever happens good luck to the lad as he has done us proud.
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| Quote ="Brian Brady's Sideburns"
Brett Hodgson - Warrington RLFC; Player/Assistant Manager, most of his salary paid as Assistant Manager?'"
can this be done?
Smith is obviously bringing him here for his coaching abilities as much as his playing skills.
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| Obviously there is a risk in giving Hodgson two years rather than one. The same is true for any player whether aged 22 or 32. Sometimes though if that's what it takes then you have to do it.
Remember common wisdom was that Warrington were the only muppets stupid enough to offer Morley a 4 year contract on his return to England. If that swayed Morley to sign for us then I guess we'll live with our mistake.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"can this be done?
Smith is obviously bringing him here for his coaching abilities as much as his playing skills.'"
I don't think it can be done, I think the coaching wage counts on the cap as well. So any money they are paid by the club counts on the cap. Otherwise you'd have lots of people coming over as player coaches who ended up doing very little coaching I imagine.
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| Quote ="inside_man"I don't think it can be done, I think the coaching wage counts on the cap as well. So any money they are paid by the club counts on the cap. Otherwise you'd have lots of people coming over as player coaches who ended up doing very little coaching I imagine.'"
well i didn't know the coaching role sits on the cap as well... you learn something new everyday.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"well i didn't know the coaching role sits on the cap as well... you learn something new everyday.'"
The Coaches Salary are not taken into account for the cap. But i think player coaches salary does.
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