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| Quote ="karetaker"So season is saved then because Widdop is not playing
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I would have thought it was fairly clear my message was a playful dig at the poster above me?!?
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| I thought it was funny Alf
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| Quote ="Alffi_7"I would have thought it was fairly clear my message was a playful dig at the poster above me?!?'"
It was clear as day mate don't worry
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| It's annoying but Patton to start at hb. No point shifting the squad around to accommodate for one injury.
Widdop can come in when fit. I hope it's not a pre curser for his time with us I think the odd injury is inevitable in the game. That's why we have a squad.
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| Heard Wire have been running 2 team scenarios. One with Patton at hb and the other with Ratchford.
I also heard the team with Patton at hb beat Ratchford's.
Only what I heard..!
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Heard Wire have been running 2 team scenarios. One with Patton at hb and the other with Ratchford.
I also heard the team with Patton at hb beat Ratchford's.
Only what I heard..!'"
Still doesn’t fill me with confidence.
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| Blake Austin to 7.
Jack Hughes to 6.
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| Quote ="Superblue"Blake Austin to 7.
Jack Hughes to 6.
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Can't do any worse.
Hughes is probably more creative then Patton
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| If we are going to put the strongest available starting 13 out then I think it will be Ratchford to the halves in order to slot Mamo in at FB. Patton may get a spot on the bench to give cover in the backs and to spell Daz Clark.
Yes, Mamo is weak under the high ball but at least he offers some attacking threat and Ratchford, whilst not always successful, will at least try things from half unlike Patton who offers nothing.
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| Quote ="St Helens Wolf"If we are going to put the strongest available starting 13 out then I think it will be Ratchford to the halves in order to slot Mamo in at FB. Patton may get a spot on the bench to give cover in the backs and to spell Daz Clark.
Yes, Mamo is weak under the high ball but at least he offers some attacking threat and Ratchford, whilst not always successful, will at least try things from half unlike Patton who offers nothing.'"
I cannot find a word to criticise you, Sir.
Congratulations. Post of the day
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| I wonder if Widdop is house sharing with Gary Wheeler ?
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| I think with Patton now we should remember he's the number 3 halfback. We signed two blue chip NRL halfbacks to be the starters so the debate isn't really about is Patton good enough to be first choice, it's what he offers us as a 3rd halfback.
And on those terms, I'm pretty happy with having Patton there. Look at other teams' rosters and who they would have as their 3rd halfback. Usually it's a young lad who is unproven, or a utility type player or someone they would shove out of position eg a fullback or hooker or loose forward. It's not that common to have a specialist halfback with 100 games experience who is an understudy ready to come in. I'd guess that Patton is better than most team's 3rd halfback option.
Whilst it might be more exciting to have a young unproven lad because then you think, well we might hit the jackpot if this guy turns out to be special, most of the time they turn out to be duds and then you have a guy who is out of his depth and a liability. For me the most important quality of a back up is just to be capable and limit mistakes. He doesn't need to be a game breaker, just don't stink the joint out, and then its important that some other senior player steps up in Widdop's absence and not have us all waiting for Patton to be Widdop.
I might have got frustrated with Patton when thinking about whether he's going to be the long term heir to Briers, because I don't think he offers much of an x factor, but compared to other young halfbacks, he's not BAD, he doesn't stink the joint out.
The ideal 3rd halfback would be someone like Tyrone Roberts. The reason people gave him stick was because he took up a quota spot and was on a big salary and was expected to be a game breaker and he wasn't. But he didn't make many mistakes, he was capable in a conservative game plan, moved the ball around ok, kicked ok (not great). If you said Roberts was English and on a limited salary and would stay around as back up halfback, I would have taken that. Patton is about the same level of player as Roberts so I'll take that.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"The ideal 3rd halfback would be someone like Tyrone Roberts. '"
The ideal third halfback for any club is someone from it's academy who believes they are better than the first team two and desperate to take their place off them.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"The ideal third halfback for any club is someone from it's academy who believes they are better than the first team two and desperate to take their place off them.'"
In the case of The Wire that would be young Riley Dean. Unfortunately he is set to miss the first 6 games due to injury.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"The ideal third halfback for any club is someone from it's academy who believes they are better than the first team two and desperate to take their place off them.'"
Well said sir especially when we consider the stick Patton took last year. No good having players on top money & in a comfort zone when there is no one to snap at their heels.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"Patton is about the same level of player as Roberts so I'll take that.'"
Agreed with most of your post except this (if you are being serious). I do not believe Patton is anywhere near the standard of Roberts. I just cannot imagine in this life-time that Patton would get a single NRL half back contract, nevermind multiple contracts.
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| Quote ="Winslade's Offload"I wonder if Widdop is house sharing with Gary Wheeler ?'"
I hope it’s a bungalow... wouldn’t trust either of these 2 negotiating the stairs on a daily basis!
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| Quote ="scottty"I hope it’s a bungalow... wouldn’t trust either of these 2 negotiating the stairs on a daily basis!'"
Wheeler would get an injury, hopping onto Thora Hurd's stairlift
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| GWiddop: Biscuit !, Biscuit !!
GWheeler: Whats up Gareth ?
GWiddop: My bl**%y finger is stuck in the Stannah stairlift start button !!!!!!!!!!!!!!. I think it's broken.
GWheeler: S**t. I said I thought that button was dodgy when they installed it, so not surprised it's broken.
GWiddop: Not the lift you idiot. My finger !!
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| Of I offered you Roberts over Patton as margin/backup halfback...who'd take it?
No feckin chance....don't let my answer influence you.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Of I offered you Roberts over Patton as margin/backup halfback...who'd take it?
No feckin chance....don't let my answer influence you.'"
is there another option?
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Of I offered you Roberts over Patton as margin/backup halfback...who'd take it?
No feckin chance....don't let my answer influence you.'"
OK, as a 'what if?' let's assume that the following were all available at the same money;
Patton, Roberts, Matty Smith & Sandow. My order would be;
Roberts (despite the possible unrest after he somewhat let us down last time by returning home early)
Patton (never going to be a top level half back)
Smith (showed nothing in his brief spell with us last season)
Sandow (despite being the most tallented of the bunch he is absolutely toxic)
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| Give me Patton over that useless mercenary any time..I expected Roberts to spark in a big game I.e challenge cup final and end of season comp final but no..and couldn't wait to get back to oz..with patten we don't expect him to be pulling up trees but the odd good thing he does you can guarantee he.ll do something absurd... But saying that he was fine in the opening games of last season as were the whole team the the rot set in
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| We should look to the future and give Riley Dean some game time. If fit, he should be infront of Patton for a half back shirt, should either Widdop or Austin be unavailable.
Patton's more suited to interchange hooker for me.
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| Quote ="MorePlaymakersNeeded"
Patton's more suited to [i[u Leigh[/u[/i for me.'"
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