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| Quote ="Captain Hook"He may get a say but I don’t for one minute think he and he alone decides who we sign which seems to be what the diehard KF detractors seem to think.'"
I agree with you. He will have input and can probably veto. I would expect other board members to have the same powers.
However, I cannot imagine the idea of signing Greg Inglis or Luther Burrell originated with Price.
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| 20 mins probs are fine if they make a consistent sustained impact across that period. We have loads of long mins relatively low impact props so I’d welcome that sort of player.
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"Isn't a director of rugby just anorher person to blame when things go wrong though? Certainly here it would be, it adds more ambiguity.'"
True, that's a downside. Upside is continuity, wider perspective, focus.
I think the only thing we can say with reasonable certainty is that our recruitment process over the last 6 years or so has had mixed results. I am careful with my words as I don't want another telling off from Smiffy and we have signed the odd good player
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| Quote ="Captain Hook"He may get a say but I don’t for one minute think he and he alone decides who we sign which seems to be what the diehard KF detractors seem to think.'"
Absolutely, I don’t believe for one second Fitzpatrick (or Draper / Gatcliffe) has signed someone without an ok from the coach, and similarly the coach wont have carte blanche to sign who he wants. KF has the overall say of course - the coach reports in to him ultimately and he has the club reputation and salary cap restraints to consider, but I’m sure Powell picks the names.
I’ve heard talk of a Director of Rugby position, but I don’t think you would attract a coach of any standing with someone else above them like that - it just doesn’t happen in RL.
I think the Johns signing came from Moran, but I’m sure Cullen would have had a say (not that you would ever say no!). Same for the likes of Burrell, he was a risk that had no impact on the salary cap, so why would Price have disagreed?
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| Quote ="DallasMead2"Do you seriously not know what a CEO is RESPONSIBLE for in an organisation?'"
You obviously think you do know. So please show me anything approaching proof that KF as CEO is the sole or even main arbiter as to who is signed to play for the club.
I’m pretty sure that each organisation expects different things from its CEO rather than have a 1 size fits all approach, again if you can show me something to the contrary I would be extremely interested.
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| Quote ="Wires71"I agree with you. He will have input and can probably veto. I would expect other board members to have the same powers.
However, I cannot imagine the idea of signing Greg Inglis or Luther Burrell originated with Price.'"
Which board members would they be?
Of Warrington Sports Holdings
Of Warrington Football Club
Of SJM Holding NW (person with significant control)
Maybe we’d be better off playing the board members
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| Interesting that Middleton and Moran never seem to come under fire. Their wealth has been very much appreciated but their decision-making in the last few years must come into question.
If KF is such a bad CEO, surely two successful businessmen should have identified that a long time ago?
I'm not defending KF there, more making a point that there are probably several people who should take their share of the blame.
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| Quote ="Superblue"Which board members would they be?
Of Warrington Sports Holdings
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Of SJM Holding NW (person with significant control)
Maybe we’d be better off playing the board members
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The board of the entity that is party to the recruitment contracts.
There would be no stopping Broomhead from 10 yards out that's for sure. Just put a photo opportunity behind the try line and give him the ball.
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| Quote ="Jack Napier"Interesting that Middleton and Moran never seem to come under fire. Their wealth has been very much appreciated but their decision-making in the last few years must come into question.
If KF is such a bad CEO, surely two successful businessmen should have identified that a long time ago?
I'm not defending KF there, more making a point that there are probably several people who should take their share of the blame.'"
Well, similar time line it could be argued that things have gone wonky since Middleton became chairman and a lot more involved....soooo...
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"Well, similar time line it could be argued that things have gone wonky since Middleton became chairman and a lot more involved....soooo...'"
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| We seem to have drifted a little off course here. Back to the subject of Dufty: We need a replacement for Widdop for next season as Dean is far from the finished article. Dufty started out at 6 at junior level and was turned into a fullback where he has since been found out defensively. There are pundits in Australia questioning whether he's playing in his best position and I would imagine that the player himself must, by now, be amongst them. Whilst Dufty spoke about not wishing to come to Super League a season or two ago the prospect of one or two seasons playing at 6 outside of the NRL may now look appealing.
Not doubt all will become clear in the coming weeks. Who knows, we may even have a 6 who has played at Fullback who may be looking for a return to Australia mid season?
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| Hearing that Wire may have lost the fight to to keep Cooper.
Wire still in talks with Kassiano.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Hearing that Wire may have lost the fight to to keep Cooper.
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| Quote ="Wanderer"Huddersfield bound?'"
Wish him all the best, been a good player for us, but not irreplaceable.
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| Quote ="St Helens Wolf"We seem to have drifted a little off course here. Back to the subject of Dufty: We need a replacement for Widdop for next season as Dean is far from the finished article. Dufty started out at 6 at junior level and was turned into a fullback where he has since been found out defensively. There are pundits in Australia questioning whether he's playing in his best position and I would imagine that the player himself must, by now, be amongst them. Whilst Dufty spoke about not wishing to come to Super League a season or two ago the prospect of one or two seasons playing at 6 outside of the NRL may now look appealing.
Not doubt all will become clear in the coming weeks. Who knows, we may even have a 6 who has played at Fullback who may be looking for a return to Australia mid season?'"
It would seem to make a lot more sense if he was targeted to play in the halves.
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| Quote ="Wires71"Wish him all the best, been a good player for us, but not irreplaceable.'"
I would argue no one in our current squad is irreplaceable (easily). A couple of years ago, I'd have said Clark, D was not far off irreplaceable with similar quality. I think the closest to it now is Ashton.
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| I'm a regular viewer of NRL games but Dufty does seem to go missing. However, he is currently playing for a poor Bulldogs side. And he seemed to play decent rugby when partnered with Widdop at the Dragons.
My best guess is that Thewlis would fill the void at Right Wing since Charnley is gone next season. Unless they plan to use Dufty in a similar way to Kurt Gidley when he was here, mixing between Full Back and Stand Off.
Dufty is absolutely rapid and I feel that we have been missing some line speed. Williams is good for running at the line but he's the only one really trying that. Although, King does tend to find a way to break the line even though he's fairly slow.
I'd love to see Wrench and Thewlis down the right hand side, with Dean starting at Scrum Half next season, focusing on the kicking game and general game management. With Williams at Stand Off, focusing on creating chances. But with a player like Dufty with his pace making dummy runs down both sides, both Dean and Williams would get effective support when spreading the ball.
And if we can get some big props, Clark can start breaking the line from fast play-the-balls again. So if there's anyone here close to the club, let them know Taniela Paseka at the Sea Eagles is the man for the job... Taller and heavier than Walmsley, also 8 years younger with loads of pace. Not even a starter, usually on the bench so could be poached away. But trust me, he's a tank.
Slightly off topic with some of this but if the above comments are the case for next season, I'd be excited about Matt Dufty coming in.
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| Now I’m confused. Do I greet Dufty with a pitchfork or a cigar? PRICE OUT!
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| Quote ="Captain Hook"Now I’m confused. Do I greet Dufty with a pitchfork or a cigar? PRICE OUT!'"
Don't be confused Captain. Greet him at Ringway with a handshake and a pat on the back and take your pitchfork and a cigar to his first game then set one of them alight at the final hooter.
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| [url=https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/matt-dufty-warrington-wolves-transfer-23997605Warrington Wolves face potential Matt Dufty setback after NRL coaching changes[/url
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| Quote ="The Perry Boy"[url=https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/matt-dufty-warrington-wolves-transfer-23997605Warrington Wolves face potential Matt Dufty setback after NRL coaching changes[/url'"
Honestly don't know whether I am pleased or disappointed by this news.
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| Dodged a bullet if true......
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| If this does fall through, i'd make a hard play for Mason Lino to partner Williams. Each to their own of course but i really rate him, He's good at everything we need in a half.
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| According to the Wigan fanatic who works for me say Leno is Wigan bound for 2023
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| Quote ="The Perry Boy"[url=https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/matt-dufty-warrington-wolves-transfer-23997605Warrington Wolves face potential Matt Dufty setback after NRL coaching changes[/url'"
Says renowned sage Matt Shaw. There’s truly nothing in that article except for HIM saying “Oh hang on, the bulldogs have a new coach now - maybe he’ll keep Dufty”. Seriously? That’s a published story? Wow.
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