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| Quote ="Winslade's Offload"Don't know, I thought it was 5 overseas, but perhaps I am out of date.'"
I had to check, don't think it was widely advertised as changing.
[urlhttp://media.therfl.co.uk/docs/Section%20B1%20-%20General%20Competition%20Rules_2016%20-%20Final%20PDF.pdf[/url
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Championship Club’s First Team Squad must consist of a maximum of 7 players who are
not either: (a) Federation Trained; or (b) Academy Juniors.[/i'"
So Potentially we have Goodwin, Akouola, Roberts & BMM with a question mark over Pomeroy.
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Quote ="Alffi_7"I had to check, don't think it was widely advertised as changing.
[urlhttp://media.therfl.co.uk/docs/Section%20B1%20-%20General%20Competition%20Rules_2016%20-%20Final%20PDF.pdf[/url
So Potentially we have Goodwin, Akouola, Roberts & BMM with a question mark over Pomeroy.'"
media.therfl.co.uk/docs/Section% ... %20PDF.pdf
Alffi, have a look at this doc. on 'players' in the 2016 rules. The section on overseas players is about 3/4 down the document.
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[urlhttp://media.therfl.co.uk/docs/Section%20B1%20-%20General%20Competition%20Rules_2016%20-%20Final%20PDF.pdf[/url
So Potentially we have Goodwin, Akouola, Roberts & BMM with a question mark over Pomeroy.'"
media.therfl.co.uk/docs/Section% ... %20PDF.pdf
Alffi, have a look at this doc. on 'players' in the 2016 rules. The section on overseas players is about 3/4 down the document.
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| Well, look at the top squads this season
webster,roberts,millington, moors, sene lefeo, monaghan, chase
fonua, talanoa, tuimivave, kelly, manu, miniciello, michaels
no surprise that they've made use to the full of the quota, while we've been trying to promote from within in recent years, or recruit locally. some key players there for both sides.
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| Quote ="Winslade's Offload"media.therfl.co.uk/docs/Section%20C1_FINAL%20PDF.pdf
Alffi, have a look at this doc. on 'players' in the 2016 rules. The section on overseas players is about 3/4 down the document.'"
Not like the RFL to be confusing is it?
I [ithink[/i this is the difference between 'Overseas Players' and 'Non Federation Trained' players.
If we consider both 'Overseas' Players as Aus / NZ born and 'other Non Fed' (Players as having Samoan / PNG / Fiji / Tongan etc heritage) as both being non Fed players - you are allowed a max of 7 of those.
Within that 7 only a maximum of 5 can be Aus / NZ born.
So Pomeroy, Roberts & Goodwin would be overseas, but BMM would be Other Non Fed Trained?
If that is correct we could either sign a max of 2 more Overseas Players or 3 more Non Fed players (or a mixture of the two)
French / Canadian players would not count as they are part of the same federation. Julien for example wont count on a SL quota
There are also players that are exempt from this in special circumastances , typically these are from clubs who went but when these players were under contract - Lachlan Burr @ Leigh being the example, following Bradford going pop.
I've re read the above several times and I'm still unsure whether it makes sense!!
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| Quote ="Alffi_7"Not like the RFL to be confusing is it?
I [ithink[/i this is the difference between 'Overseas Players' and 'Non Federation Trained' players.
If we consider both 'Overseas' Players as Aus / NZ born and 'other Non Fed' (Players as having Samoan / PNG / Fiji / Tongan etc heritage) as both being non Fed players - you are allowed a max of 7 of those.
Within that 7 only a maximum of 5 can be Aus / NZ born.
So Pomeroy, Roberts & Goodwin would be overseas, but BMM would be Other Non Fed Trained?
If that is correct we could either sign a max of 2 more Overseas Players or 3 more Non Fed players (or a mixture of the two)
French / Canadian players would not count as they are part of the same federation. Julien for example wont count on a SL quota
There are also players that are exempt from this in special circumastances , typically these are from clubs who went but when these players were under contract - Lachlan Burr @ Leigh being the example, following Bradford going pop.
I've re read the above several times and I'm still unsure whether it makes sense!!'"
I would agree, I think you are correct. The bit we are missing is the Kolpak players in countries that have an association agreement with the EU e.g. Fiji, Tonga, Samoa. That would explain FMC's list of players for Hull, two of which at least are Tongan's.
Perhaps now that we have solved the problem we had better shut up before we become labeled as Nerds
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| Quote ="Winslade's Offload"
Perhaps now that we have solved the problem we had better shut up before we become labeled as Nerds'"
I think that ship's sailed
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| I just just thinking this topic should have a clever bugger thread of its own.
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| Ben murdoch-Masilla apparently signed for next year, buzzin with that. Suppose that's Jack Hughes second row spot gone then?
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| Quote ="Or thane"Suppose that's Jack Hughes second row spot gone then?'"
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| Maybe we'll the best of Hughes when he fights for his spot under a new coach instead of being the first name on the team sheet each week irrespective of form.
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| Quote ="easyWire"Maybe we'll the best of Hughes when he fights for his spot under a new coach instead of being the first name on the team sheet each week irrespective of form.'"
Shirt numbers will be interesting for next season, at best I’d only have Hughes as a bench spot right now.
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| I might be alone here but I'm reasonably optimistic about Hughes.
When he first arrived along with Westerman, he was surprisingly the better of the pair.
Last season we asked much of Hughes playing along side a very poor abd light around pack.
With bigger men by him, attracting greater attention again, he may just find some room to run the right edge again and pick up tries again. He defence I can't question.
I'll cut him some slack and not make him a scapegoat.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"I might be alone here but I'm reasonably optimistic about Hughes.
When he first arrived along with Westerman, he was surprisingly the better of the pair.
Last season we asked much of Hughes playing along side a very poor abd light around pack.
With bigger men by him, attracting greater attention again, he may just find some room to run the right edge again and pick up tries again. He defence I can't question.
I'll cut him some slack and not make him a scapegoat.'"
I'm sorry RD but Hughes's running was woeful last year and most of that is down to him, whether that's confidence or ability I've no idea although he looked like a world beater at Featherstone.
He started his Wire career solidly enough, but, he offered little in attack last year cuts in every time is easy to read and just seems to get in the way. I sometimes wonder whether the perception of Brown's ability is coloured by Hughes's form?
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| Quote ="Uncle Rico"I'm sorry RD but Hughes's running was woeful last year and most of that is down to him, whether that's confidence or ability I've no idea although he looked like a world beater at Featherstone.
He started his Wire career solidly enough, but, he offered little in attack last year cuts in every time is easy to read and just seems to get in the way. I sometimes wonder whether the perception of Brown's ability is coloured by Hughes's form?'"
You've no need to apologise UR. You've pretty much agreed with me.
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| Every player for me gets a fresh start next season, I'm particularly happy to forget everything from this year - the whole team were the let down, not just one or two players.
I have an inflated expectation of a few obvious players - Currie, Ratch, Atkins, Hill & Clark - Atkins is a prime example of a player who was awful for a couple of seasons, but turned it around and then some.
New coach, freshened up squad, sprinkling of quality in the 13, time to hit the reset button on who our heroes and scapegoats are.
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| Quote ="Jimathay"Every player for me gets a fresh start next season, I'm particularly happy to forget everything from this year - the whole team were the let down, not just one or two players.
I have an inflated expectation of a few obvious players - Currie, Ratch, Atkins, Hill & Clark - Atkins is a prime example of a player who was awful for a couple of seasons, but turned it around and then some.
New coach, freshened up squad, sprinkling of quality in the 13, time to hit the reset button on who our heroes and scapegoats are.'"
Fair comment 3-2-1 we're back in the room
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"We are busy tonight.
Murdoch and Roberts deals both closed tonight.'"
Have I missed something?
How come they haven't been announced Mr In the Know?
Good signings if they happen.
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| Reports that the Ben Murdoch Masila deal is not done either as Hull KR have re-entered the race. How true that is, no idea.
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| Just realised Pauli Pauli has been released by the Newcastle Knights, that's a prop i wouldn't mind having in the team. 23yrs old, 6'3 and 18 stone. Big massive F@*ker. Him and Akuoala of the bench would be immense. Although i hope we do sign a new Half first
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| RD are you in the process of making yourself look stupid again with your done deals, how do you know Roberts and Masila have signed, especially when it’s being said elsewhere no such thing as happened. Is this another George WillIams moment ?? ?
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| Quote ="Uncle Rico"I'm sorry RD but Hughes's running was woeful last year and most of that is down to him, whether that's confidence or ability I've no idea although he looked like a world beater at Featherstone.
He started his Wire career solidly enough, but, he offered little in attack last year cuts in every time is easy to read and just seems to get in the way. '"
This is true, don't forget the knock ons, penalties and inability to play the ball under pressure. But he get's a slate wiped for me.
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| Maybe this half back called Roberts is . . . Ben Roberts
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| To be fair even Gold Coast think we are after TYRONE.
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