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| I think Matautia has proved that he is a useful boy to have about in the last few weeks. However if Williams is fit I expect Matuatia to move back to right centre.
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| If Williams has recovered then he is most likely going to be first choice half back. The question, based on the preformances of Dean and Wrench, is who will make way? From what I saw of Dean I expect him to retain his place and for Wrench to lose out.
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| Quote ="St Helens Wolf"If Williams has recovered then he is most likely going to be first choice half back. The question, based on the preformances of Dean and Wrench, is who will make way? From what I saw of Dean I expect him to retain his place and for Wrench to lose out.'"
I'd have thought that Williams and Mata'utia at half back would be unlikely.
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| It should be unchanged unless Williams is 100% if he is I think wrench will miss out. Harsh on him but Dean has to have another go surely, even if Widdop and ratchford were both available as well as Williams Dean would deserve another game IMO.
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| I’d agree with Williams back in, but only if 100% fit - only change from previous week imo.
Starts to get interesting after the two week break, presumably Williams, Widdop and Ratchford will all be back at that point. I’m ok with Dean and Wrench taking an opportunity when injuries and suspensions dictate, but Thewlis has to stay at full back now for me.
Ratchford and Widdop to fight it out for the second half back spot.
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| Quote ="Alffi_7"I’d agree with Williams back in, but only if 100% fit - only change from previous week imo.
Starts to get interesting after the two week break, presumably Williams, Widdop and Ratchford will all be back at that point. I’m ok with Dean and Wrench taking an opportunity when injuries and suspensions dictate, but Thewlis has to stay at full back now for me.
Ratchford and Widdop to fight it out for the second half back spot.'"
Yeah because of the two week break, I can’t see Williams getting risked.
Powell saying they going to leave it until the last minute to check his fine to play.
Sounds like some doubt so guessing he’ll wait a couple of weeks, although George will be looking forward to a big game against Wigan
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| Out of interest is Wrench classed as a centre or is he centre/wing? Not sure if like Mata'utia he's a specialist centre or more of a Utility player?
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| We’ve had 3 weeks of GW in the squad and only post match Giants win, is it revealed he is injured. Warbys bread on a bus.
Our halves are good enough when the pack is good enough. Pies will have more than an eye on next week. The fixtures currently are on our side. Can’t make a true line of form with our win over Giants for the same reason we can’t against Pies. However a defeat to Pies and it shouts we are still up shiitake creak without a stick.
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| Quote ="Or thane"Out of interest is Wrench classed as a centre or is he centre/wing? Not sure if like Mata'utia he's a specialist centre or more of a Utility player?'"
I'd go Wrench Centre/Wing with the emphasis on Centre, but it looks like he can shift.
IMO Mata' utia is a Centre that could fill in at FB or SO but only in an emergency/last resort and for me he's behind Ratchford in the Utility stakes. To get a go in the halves we'd have to have only one available from Williams Widdop Dean and Ratchford, (assuming Thewlis is at FB in the case of Ratchford) and at FB to replace say Ratchford, there'd be no Thewlis or Widdop available and I might put Ashton back there with Wrench on the Left Wing before moving Mata'utia back.
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| Quote ="Or thane"Out of interest is Wrench classed as a centre or is he centre/wing? Not sure if like Mata'utia he's a specialist centre or more of a Utility player?'"
He was a backrower playing for our Academy and it was Lee Briers who suggested that his footwork and speed could be better used as a centre.
He moved to centre only a short while before his 1st team debut.
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| Quote ="Boss Hog"He was a backrower playing for our Academy and it was Lee Briers who suggested that his footwork and speed could be better used as a centre.
He moved to centre only a short while before his 1st team debut.'"
Yup, hence why he looked shakey as fook when we put him on the wing a few weeks back.
Like austin did for gb
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| Powell as confirmed Williams is playing tomorrow.
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| Given that Powell said the original plan last week was to play Dean with Williams I assume that will be the plan tonight.
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| I'm looking forward to Dean and Williams together, I think Riley Dean put in the best wire halfback display of the season last week. The more dangerous runners around him the better we will be and Williams is really, really good at that.
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| see, the more i think about this now, the more i'd like wrench to be playing, i'd like as much pace as possible to give wigan/field something to think about.
he's deffo gonna be the one to drop out
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| quick side note, this is the difference between saints blooding youngsters and us, maybe other teams, welsby was 4th sub for 12 months and filled in where necessary and they adjusted, be it centre, wing, fb half or hooker, and then when he was getting a starting gig, centre/wing, that's when they brought dodd in for the same thing.
Price wouldn't do that, as we know he'd occasionally use academy lads as seat fillers on the bench, but we're not in a position, especially this season to be carrying three average forwards and a potential wildcard on the bench, which is annoying when you think ppl suggest we should be doing this with ratch, have him as a fill in.
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| Tonight's squad baring any late injuries in the warm up is.......
Thewlis
Charnley
Matautia
King
Ashton
Williams
Dean
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D Clark
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Holmes
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| Cheers paul. Shame for Wrench but sure he will get plenty of opportunities.
Just out of interest. Who is the captain now. I wasn't paying much attention last wee but noticed in the second half Holmes approach the ref to clarify a decision.
Was Holmes captain all game or just when Cooper was having a rest.
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| How does Jason Clark waltz straight back into a team that actually played well for once this season?
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| Quote ="Deus Dat Incrementum"Cheers paul. Shame for Wrench but sure he will get plenty of opportunities.
Just out of interest. Who is the captain now. I wasn't paying much attention last wee but noticed in the second half Holmes approach the ref to clarify a decision.
Was Holmes captain all game or just when Cooper was having a rest.'"
Not sure who was captain last week, but all the leadership came from Matautia.
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| I have been sat nursing a single glass of wine with a client all afternoon so I’m ready for a glug and a win.
How tough a test will this be ?
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| The glug or the win?
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| Quote ="ShropshireWire"I have been sat nursing a single glass of wine with a client all afternoon so I’m ready for a glug and a win.
How tough a test will this be ?'"
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"quick side note, this is the difference between saints blooding youngsters and us, maybe other teams, welsby was 4th sub for 12 months and filled in where necessary and they adjusted, be it centre, wing, fb half or hooker, and then when he was getting a starting gig, centre/wing, that's when they brought dodd in for the same thing.
Price wouldn't do that, as we know he'd occasionally use academy lads as seat fillers on the bench, but we're not in a position, especially this season to be carrying three average forwards and a potential wildcard on the bench, which is annoying when you think ppl suggest we should be doing this with ratch, have him as a fill in.
bit of a rant there, not sure it all makes sense, but it kinda does.'"
I suggested we used Ratch as a utility player as I wanted DP to put Thewlis at FB for the season. But not necessarily on the bench (although he could be used there sometimes), as there will be times when he could fill in during the season, by starting in a number of positions without moving too many players about. Ratchford is too slow to be regularly starting at FB and I stand by my comments.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Wire by 8.'"
You are the kiss of death, and I claim my £5.
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