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| I think our team needs some consistency before looking towards any calculation with risk.
Our prop depth is probably the shallowest in SL.
Let’s get 3 or 4 wins in then play with some youth.
A defeat at Leeds will put Price under intense pressure, if it wasn’t bad enough losing at Wakey.
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| Having Hill back should make a big difference, we looked decidedly lightweight last week.
I'm not sure why Price keeps playing Walker and Davis, play one or the other and put another big lad on the bench. Same with Johnson and Burrell - it's one or t'other
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| If Brand was up against Hurrell it would be a baptism of fire.
If SP was going to play Brand it would have been last week.
I can't see it being anyone other than Mamo at centre. Last week he didn't play that well be he has previously.
Brand will get his chance I'm sure, but against Leeds isn't the right call imo.
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| Brand will start against Leeds.
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| Quote ="St Helens Wolf"Having Hill back should make a big difference, we looked decidedly lightweight last week.
I'm not sure why Price keeps playing Walker and Davis, play one or the other and put another big lad on the bench. Same with Johnson and Burrell - it's one or t'other'"
Totally agree
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| Quote ="Moe syslak"Brand will start against Leeds.'"
Hope that's the case, I saw him play last season and he was impressive. Not the biggest though.
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| All our backs will do great behind a dominating pack, size and inexperience won’t be a barrier, we haven’t had this since Hill did a Hill.
Hopefully he will finally learn....and we’ll be very impressive again, and it starts tonight.
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| Quote ="Matt King's kitten"Hope that's the case, I saw him play last season and he was impressive. Not the biggest though.'"
that whole side needs to do a job on hurrell,
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| need to do what we did to hurrell in his first game against us...hit him soon as he gets the ball...if u allow him to build momentum he'll run through backs easily...get him soon as he gets the ball he gets disinterested and lazy like he was against hull.
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| If you control the ball you don’t need pay so much attention to any Leeds attacks.
You dominate with attack and force the defence to concede a score or return ball with a kick.
Do that enough times and the result will look after itself.
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| Hope Brand gets his chance, played really well for us last year in difficult circumstances.
Mamo, Robson and Patton all in our squad (Widnes) to play at Dewsbury on Sunday.
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| Quote ="The Horses Mouth"Hope Brand gets his chance, played really well for us last year in difficult circumstances.
Mamo, Robson and Patton all in our squad (Widnes) to play at Dewsbury on Sunday.'"
Widnes are doing very well this season. How much, if any, is the Wire tie up helping out there?
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"that whole side needs to do a job on hurrell,'"
Hurrell up against BMM will be some collision.
Wonder if Price might switch King to the right also.
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| Quote ="Matt King's kitten"
Wonder if Price might switch King to the right also.'"
I wondered that myself, both King and Hurrell play on the left, so as things stand Hurrell will be up against the side of BMM, Brand/Burrell and Charnley. Defensively it makes sense, but i'm not sure I like the idea of moving our combinations about to mitigate the threat of Hurrell, it would lessesn an already misfiring attack from our point of view.
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| Quote ="Alffi_7"I wondered that myself, both King and Hurrell play on the left, so as things stand Hurrell will be up against the side of BMM, Brand/Burrell and Charnley. Defensively it makes sense, but i'm not sure I like the idea of moving our combinations about to mitigate the threat of Hurrell, it would lessesn an already misfiring attack from our point of view.'"
Less changes the better, king and lineham are getting a nice little combo going( i note there was zero praise last week for his quick hands and combos with currie and tommy in the first half)
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| Looking at Gellings twitter, looks like Brand might be getting the nod tonight......
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| Brand is not listed in the try scoring markets at Sky Bet, but Mamo is. Not sure whether they know something we don't?
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Widnes are doing very well this season. How much, if any, is the Wire tie up helping out there?'"
It’s early days yet RD and the only really decent opposition we’ve faced are London who tanked us!! I like this dual reg thing and am happy to see Mamo in our squad for weekend. I’m glad you seem to be keeping faith with Toby King.....Please don’t send him over!!
I hope Brand goes well for you tonight. He was more than capable for us
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| Quote ="fez1"If Brand was up against Hurrell it would be a baptism of fire.
If SP was going to play Brand it would have been last week.
I can't see it being anyone other than Mamo at centre. Last week he didn't play that well be he has previously.
Brand will get his chance I'm sure, but against Leeds isn't the right call imo.'"
So what do I know....
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| Brand at fault for there try chin up lad it happens...is widdop playing
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| Quote ="fez1"So what do I know....
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Well actually I think my call NOT to play Brand was half decent.
But it's interesting to see that those who said Brand should be given a chance have gone quiet (ish) and a new group are saying Price for 'throwing Brand to the lions'.
So Price gets criticism before the match and criticism after it.
I'm no fan of Price but he can't 'win' with fans - never mind on the pitch.
And unfortunately I just can't see any coaches winning with fans in these days of social media. Thankfully the mods manage to keep most of the comments 'clean' here which is more than can be said for Facethingy and Instachat and the like.
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| Brand isn’t at fault for Hurrell running over the top of him...who else had the nerve to get in front of him.
Had our team been attacking and not defending...it wouldn’t have been a issue.
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| Carrying two midget forwards in the pack isn't a recipe for dominance, one perhaps but not two. It means one third of the pack is mini-sized.
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| Quote ="BrianBradyHandOff"Carrying two midget forwards in the pack isn't a recipe for dominance, one perhaps but not two. It means one third of the pack is mini-sized.'"
That fella that played R2-D2 is coming available - he could be good off the bench. Obviously out of the ‘bin on wheels‘ costume.
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| Get Warwick Davis to go blindside prop with him.
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