He had an amazing agent for sure. At the time I was not too bothered if he left, the hype was absolutely incredible then and looks ridiculous in hindsight.

He is 25, not a youngster, and he must be the one of the few 'hottest properties in world RL' never to never trouble the selection for their national side (I'm excluding the game for Ireland).

In truth once the high kicks to the corners dried up, so did the tries. What is it 10 tries in 2021? 4 tries since he signed the contract 11 months ago?

But the beauty of a forum is that we can all have different opinions.

Ignoring the last point as it is juvenile.

Not here to gloat. It's not my style but it's crazy how much you are paying Williams for what he offers. When it was known he was available i wanted him back at Wigan but when i heard the numbers being banded about i was praying he signed for Wire. I desperately wanted Tomkins and Bateman back but they flattered to deceive. Not bad by any means but i was expecting more. That's where i was with Williams. I got slated by some on our board but during his time at Wigan i thought he was a decent half with an excellent tackling game. That's where it ends for me. For that kind of money i want a match winner. Somebody who drags the rest of the team with them when things aren't going right. Somebody who can spark a bit of magic and changes a game. I could be wrong, i haven't seen a lot of Wire this season but yet again, Warringtons big money is tied up in un-inspiring halves. Seems you do it every season. Never a prop or full back etc.

I maybe in a minority but I just think Williams is bang average

Don't think you are in the minority at all. I never feared him when he played for Wigan and I was surprised he did so well in the NRL.

Williams is the best English half in the comp after Lomax.

Wigan didnt play him due to other issues, mainly attitude

I said not up to their standard. That can include attitude, work rate, skill etc.

No he's not, Trueman is.

I agree, but I agreed with Bullocks stance also

What was it why they dropped him, I think it was early-ish in the season and it wasn't long after rumours of him going to Warrington started...I figured dropped because he signed for us ?

Don't know what Pieman knows but i heard it all began with Bullock's timekeeping. Constantly late for training. That's what i was told, How much truth is in that i don't know.

During his brief stint in the NRL he was consistently a high performer, when Warrington do click Williams will start to impress and you'll see his worth.

Agree with this, I've no concerns with Williams.

Bar the much discussed issues at prop and possibly 13 (Magoulias jury still out as he hasnt had much gametime) I've no real concerns with the squad itself. Currie, King, Holmes, Mata'utia have all come in for some stick recently, but I think they are more than capable of being in a Warrington 17 that wins a Grand Final, what needs to change is attitude, effort and structure. They are obviously low on enthusiasm right now, maybe they are unhappy with some of the changes behind the scenes - its difficult to know that from the outside. Maybe some of the established players will need to move on to allow Powell to stamp his authority on the squad, time will tell.

I'm still well in Powells corner on this, but maybe he came in and tried to change too much too soon?

We were knocked out of the play offs in the 1st round at home for 3 consecutive years, so serious changes were required.

Powell had to act quickly and if some players don`t like it, then tough............

Changes yes, but there are many ways to facilitate change - I just wonder if he would approach it in a different way given the start we have had.

If in a few weeks we are singing on the same hymm sheet its probably justified, if we are in this situation all year it will seriously hit the club in the pocket as attendances will suffer.

Some of our players have already contributed to our two previous coaches leaving.

Powell will have realised this and knew it wouldn`t be an easy gig.

You are correct that the situation will probably drag on all season., but we are already out of the Challenge Cup and highly unlikely to qualify for the play-offs.

I have already written off this season, and the games are very painful to watch but I am still right behind Powell.

Exactly, rip the plaster off quickly.

There is 3/4 season left. I am hoping that we may just sneak into the playoffs but not expecting us to do much.

Powell has a record of improving clubs and players. He’s had one pre-season to completely turn things upside down. He’s done it at previous clubs and I’d back him to do it here. If that means using this season to separate the wheat from the chaff then so be it. I’d rather see a load of young home-grown players putting us in a good position for the future than watch overrated NRL castoff players and coaches fail here for one or two seasons on a repeat cycle.

I hope things turn around this year, but we may have to settle for a slow climb back up the curve before we see the benefits.

Completely agree with this

We have to let him rebuild this team.... i think its now obvious, to everyone watching, that its not a quick 1 season fix.

I think we have to write off this season completely.. as we look like one of the worst 3 teams in the league.

The team needs a clearout of say, 75% of the first team players? Thats not going to be the easiest of tasks given the contracts people have been given (actually im typing that and being presumptious... for all i know, half these charlatans have contracts up at the end of the season.. i bet they dont though).... so moving some of them on isnt going to be easy.

probably 2-3 seasons before we are competitive again... Powell should be backed to do this... As this is what he does.

That's my view too. We have been declining for a number of years from being true title contenders, it is going to take a few recruitment cycles to turn that around.

Absolute madness to write this season off with the quality of player in your squad….

If you look past the 'names' of the players, then there isn't much quality at all.
Widdop - class player, but clearly wants to go home to oz.
King - bang average, but seemingly rated by other fans.
D. Clark - a shadow of his former self. More than likely due to playing for us whilst injured.
Currie - still OK, but absolutely nowhere near the player he once was.
Philbin - GB player a few years back, now plays at a level that could see his next club be a championship one.
New signings - not one is better than average.

Out injured until May.

Citation needed