No he wasn't, penny was absolutely shocking in defence. As someone said earlier Ashtons biggest problem is trying to hard. Can't really say its a negative especially atm. It's nice to see someone that wants to win.

2nd half very dissapointing. But that first half was excellent.

They upped their levels in the second half but the game changed on that ridiculous ref call against Matty Ashtons catch stolen by French. We made many pivotal individual errors too which didn't help. For Kai Pearce to release that ball was Nicholsons fault (he's young and learning though). Then it was a lesson in targeting our other younger players.

Wigan were missing a few, but they're back line is absolutely lethal - the best in sl by a mile - against our young inexperienced players.

There's some encouraging things there we can take with us against lesser teams than Wigan.

I do want to defend Ashton for the play the ball to no one.
2 points.
1. There was no one with him to protect him and for him to pass too or playbthe ball too. The team were 30 metres behind.
2. He had to play the ball. If he didn't. It would be a penalty anyway for delaying the play the ball. So he is in a no win position for that play.

I'd rather not.

Channel 5 are showing Steptoe and Son Ride Again (the one with the greyhound). I'm at a loss to which one will be funnier

You going to play Minichin instead?

He should have looked round and fell on the floor gripping his calf.

True but he could have realised that and took his time getting to his feet perhaps? Composure.

So a sin bin for simulation and professional foul for delaying the game.

The thing is. He already delayed getting up to play the ball as it is.

Our problem is, like the Saints and Catalan games, the players actually got up for this game and put in a half decent show. However, we never seem to be able to get up for consecutive games and that's what is now desperately needed.

You are right though, that poor call on the high kick which French knocked on was a major turning point and Wigan were just ultimately too good and better than us, but the effort can't be faulted tonight, we were just done by a better team.

Don't do drugs, kids.
Our attacking structure?????? Put the crackpipe down.

You're spot on mentioning modern society, though. But you've got it the wrong we round......... HURTLING TO THE BOTTOM

Never seen that happen.

Wtaf. Seriously.
He is absolutely delusional. He was happy with that performance.
He is making excuses.
Oh.
He's just said we are talking rubbish.

Edit. That was the Powell interview.

Nearly as laughable as the amount of stuff you make up on here maybe?

Should have had 3 in that first half: the ball was moving much better and it was an even game with us at least matching Wigan on their own patch.

You're probably unaware, but young players take time to bed in and learn from mistakes. Welsby etc, they've made mistakes and learned from them. We've got 3 young inexperienced back 3 players who look exciting and will be worth the investment. They need to make their mistakes to improve.

Anyway, Powell ain't going anywhere, so chew it.

JJB calling out the bs. Hes dead right.

Powell sounding like Baghdad bob

He isn't far wrong......

All teams target wingers and full backs. The difference between a good side and a bad side is that the good sides make sure it's difficult to put up good kick in the first place (usually the forwards' job) and/or give the winger or full back some protection from the chase (usually centres and 2nd rows). Regan Grace isn't a great player under the high ball, but 95% of the time he is taking poor kicks under little pressure. We hang out our young players to dry.

If we are talking about targeting, I'd mention Wigan's first try where Holmes was originally beaten by Field to create the break, then made a pathetic attempt on French that enabled the final pass.

We were gash again in the 2nd half. 32 unanswered points, loads of blown chances and ineffective pack.

Powell will be out the door if we lose to Tolouse.

First half excellent? We bombed 2 or 3 chances, and Wigan were poor. We didn't capitalise. Sign of a bad side.

As for your second,....well that went well against HKR, Hudds, Wakey, Salford etcetcetc

Did Powell really just say on Sky we are looking to the future and building something special. He’s officially lost his mind.

Completely out coached by Peet tonight Wigan had made 2 interchanges at 50 minutes knowing they’d destroy us late on.

"I thought we was good" (sic)

The acceptance of mediocrity is beyond a joke.

He should be out before the sports news on tomorrow morning's BBC Breakfast sports news.

Knowing our board, he'll be as gormless as ever, at 1945 on Thursday night, when that Aussie woman goes through her banal "questioning"

Sorry, haven't read all the thread.

To me tonight and the saints game look like a team who were trying harder because they didn't want to get humiliated, the rest of the games they give it a bit of a go then give up. Why or whose fault it is I have no idea, Also its awful seeing Cooper and Briers celebrating in those colours.