Serious question here, I'm not trying to be smart or snidey, but who said there is a change of culture required at Warrington?

If the WG were any sort of newspaper (lol) they would try to contact Steve Price over in Oz and put the question to him - he's nothing to lose or gain & no axe to grind, but I'd be really interested to hear his viewpoint.

Turning around man United in the early 80s was a FAR FAR bigger job than an established (common final appearances) RL side that has just finished 3rd with the 2nd best defence and attack.

It’s an absolute nonsense that it takes a long time to turn around SL sides as things currently stand.

You’re telling me it takes 19 weeks to perfect at least ONE attacking move and get a defensive structure in place?

Bernard Manning if he was alive. He might not be a good rugby coach but he could make people laugh.

That isn’t a defence of Powell? I would suggest ANYBODY would currently improve our defence. Our defence under Price was very good and I remember Powell acknowledging that and saying it only needed a ‘tweak’ - well WHAT ON EARTH did he do?

You were loving it after we beat Catalans’ second string - which Salford duly dispatched with ease. So what now? Name something Powell is currently doing that I can see on game day that assures me he is the right man for the job?

Top spenders, producing 3 consecutive 1st round knockouts against much less well financially backed teams playing atrocious rugby with crowds on the slide. The players couldn't be ar$ed. If that doesn't signal for a culture change, I don't know what does.

In previous years, prior to this, we lost two challenges cup finals with arguably stronger teams than the opposition.

Id be on the phone to tony smith 4 weeks ago to steady the ship.
he did it in 09 with what basically was Cullen's team. and actually got them working as a team. a challenge cup followed 4 months later.
he admitted he fell out of love with the game in 17. came back in 2021 and pulled a 9th or 10th place hull kr team to within 80 minutes of a grand final last year and only left due to disagreements with the kr board.

Answer the question! Harking back to (more successful) Price seasons isn’t helping your argument. What are the green shoots I am currently seeing/missing?

We did lose CCF finals against opposition we ‘should’ have beaten. We have just lost at home (shipping 30 points again) to a second strong HKR side who have a caretaker coach and are on the bones of their arrises. This was at home and in a game we desperately needed to win. What a culture change eh?

I'm not defending Powell tonight. What i am defending is the right for a coach to be given time to fully implement changes. Not once have I defended any of Powell's decisions or influence on the game tonight.

I was happy after the Catalan game as I thought there were some green shoots - everyone else did - and even the Powell outs had changed their mind. At least I have the courage of my convictions and haven't flipped again.

You and some others though, do seem to be a little obtuse on the potential impact a cultural change, such as this, will have on a team. I can understand some people wanting him out now, he's harder to defend after tonight.

The problem you have, along with all the other Powell out mob, is that if Powell goes now, you'll never be able to say you were right as we'll never know how good or bad he would been.

He ain't going anywhere though.

Have you seen this year's results.

Are you seriously trying to compare Price's 4 seasons with Powells half and expecting to match apples with apples?

If we're judging coaches off this year your whole argument is flawed.

I do like your posts though

I've answered the f@@king question about 50 times in the past 2 weeks. To say once again, there were shoots in the Cats game, but mainly that patience is required when making a large upheaval.

For the last f@@king time, I'm not defending Powell this week or last, I'm defending a coaches right (any) to be given time. But I also respect the opinion that it has been dissapointing, and I agree with this.

Daryl Powell. 35% win ratio.
2nd worse coach ever at Warrington
only plange is worse with 25%.

if your on about hull krs season

6th in the league.
beat us both times this year.
scored more.
conceded less.
we are 4 points away from them and 4 points away from relegation.
something needed to change 4 weeks ago.

Explain.

I do admire your loyalty and yes I have flip-flopped…I just cannot see this working now though. He’s building a team of mercernaries and it won’t work. I just cannot see past Holmes continually selected and now over Nicholson ( a genuine superstar), minikin over wrench, Ratchford two year deal and cooper at Wigan whilst a Widnes bound Amor flails about like it’s an over 45 charity game. These aren’t the decisions of a coach who knows what he’s doing - he’s expecting a fantasy football pack next season which everything will flow off the back of….it doesn’t work like that. He’s rubbish!

Over half a season with a massive upheaval. Jesus wept.

I’m not sure you can harbour your views on Powell‘a credentials if you’re writing off Tony Smith for having an indifferent year with Hull KR.

WHAT ARE THE SHOOTS???? That’s not a pop I genuinely want to know what the plus side of this season is that you see that I don’t. You haven’t said anything specific in that regard.

Pack it in. The upheaval was of his own making….and I get a feeling he’s making it up as he goes along.

I too share these concerns and I think he's made mistakes. But his track record over the long period shows overall improvement with all the clubs he's been at. I'm hoping/thinking he'll learn.

so would you have given Steve Anderson (35.2% over 34 games) and David plange (25% over 16 games) more time???
the latter putting us in a relegation dog fight after his predecessor bought a crap atmosphere into the club.
Paul Cullen secured the safety with 6 games by winning 2 of them.

change is needed now to steady the ship because, at present. I don't know where our next win is coming from

I was being facetious. I was using the same barometer some others are using to judge Powell - just over half a season.

Of course we didn't need upheaval - we've been doing really well over the past 6/7 odd years.

He shouldn’t be needing to learn to help us avoid relegation!!! We cannot get absolute basics right. This is just a bad fit like Damned United and we need to hurry up and accept it.