Any players not playing to their ability or in line with the coaches direction need to be dropped and put on loan. I'd rather lose with a good camp than lose with a bad one.

Absolutley agree. Its what Smith did. Gleeson gone and he threatened Briers with Barrow on loan....

The recent pathetic performances don't happen with a good group. Our youngsters showed that the other year against Salford.

No probably about it. He makes 9.3m average gain, 2nd only to Conor Wrench.

Philbin makes a poor 6.5 and J Clark < 6.0.

Cooper has decent prop figures with 8.3

Stats may suggest that Philbin was poor this afternoon but I don't think he was. He still needs to be better but he clearly tried to run better lines and ran hard IMO. Cooper is still our best, bullock made 1 bad PTB error but was good otherwise, mulhern ran hard and was solid.

Stats probably not updated as yet to take account of todays game.

I've heard the same rumours, from a connected source.

Day 1 at the "players' bonding session" in York
"Is there anything you want to get off your chests?"
"No"

Day 2
Ditto

Next time of asking
"Yes. Powell is training us too hard. It was not like this under Steve"

I'm a lover of many sports and I don't think I've ever known a set of fans to be so pro coach/manager after a bad run of form.

But I agree with it. I'd much rather get rid of the dissidents than get rid of Powell. They've had it far too easy for too long.

The players are dumb at times. Just watching the last try and the set restart on tackle 5. FFS.

My suspicions lie with the players that have played under Smith, Price and Powell. Getting the first sacked, embarrassing the second, and frustrating the third.

No apologies needed. I post what I hear and be dammed. Tbh, I wish I was wrong.

Despite being done at the death, I thought that was one of our better performances this season. We carried the ball and defended with more vigour, but still seem to back off a bit too much when defending our flanks. Peter Mata'utia made good yards by running forwards rather than sideways, but I only saw him pass once during the game, with around 1 minute left. We need to bring some attacking threat to our right edge, otherwise were too easy to defend against as defences know where we'll be attacking.

In a strange way i quite enjoyed the match. It showed we were prepared to work hard and but for some questionable refereeing decisions we would’ve won. I’m loathe to criticise refs normally…but Currie sin bin? Forward passes called by the crowd. That 6 again where i felt the Hull player moved forward but would need to see it again. As for that try???
However this was a major step forward in Thewlis’s development. I thought our pack stood up to Hull’s bigger men. 2 games in a short turnaround looked too much for Widdop. Longstaff seems very strong for a lighter looking bloke.
As for issues in the camp, there is a reason that “change management” plays a big part in all areas of management. Getting people to buy in takes a while.
So, disappointed with the defeat but not downhearted.

Nope he was wrong, as I said he’ll be back for the Huddersfield match.

Oh God…..I’m wasting time here again aren’t I. Doh…

Which is the weekend nearest May 1st.

I’ve no question about him being ready for Hudds, I had liked your post and said I hope I’m wrong.
Following on you jibed on about me being nostrodarmous and no IQ because he was in the squad for Hull last week. Now you have seemingly forgotten that, and I’m still wrong.
If he plays v Hudds I’ll be very happy to be wrong, but we’ll both be wrong…but unlike you. I don’t actually give a shiitake while you’re voicing and bouncing off the walls pal.

Right, I'm drawing a line under this one, both of you move on

Was Magoulias dropped for this game or was he injured?

He warmed up as 18th man. Could have been that Powell felt that he needed some fresh legs and that Magoulias was the furthest away from being 100%?

Jace Clark was one of the best forwards anyway, perhaps it’s pack rotation.

He did have a good game for us, i think he'll stay in the squad for awhile with Hughes now out

he was ok, i was truly baffled to see him on the chase for that chip that ratch did.

I thought longstaff was a bit of a passenger yesterday, i saw someone on FB saying he had an outstanding game, i must have missed that.

Jason Clark is consistent and works his socks off. Teams need players like him

Agreed, I think if Hughes had stayed on he would have prevented that try by Hannibal Lecter .

Longstaff has a big future in the game though and he will become a dominant player in our squad.

this is something i've noticed recently (and i am aware i'm the resident debbie downer on ellis) i know everyone is high on him, and he did alright last year filling in, this season he just seems more undersized and doesnt seem to take the ball in and is more of a steve price style shirt filler.

now granted this is an unfair comparison in terms of appearances but if you compare individual performances between him and thewlis, its night and day at the moment.

On the subject of Fash the Inhaler was I the only person baffled that K Brown selected him as MoM?