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| I would prefer Powell all day to long than Wane. Powell would bring much more attacking game to Wire than Wane and I think he would gets the best out of the youngsters as well. I also would feel the same cheering Wane on as manager rafter his ******house tactics on Ratchford in the grand final !! Hope it’s announced tonight
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"The official line from Cas is that both parties agreed on the split in 2020. In which case, doesn’t that make the coincidence circumstantial?'"
Hmmm a “circumstantial coincidence” does that count as an oxymoron?
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| The 'big' half time announcement today.... a Chris Hill testimonial calendar.... featuring naked players.
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| Quote ="Hatfield Town Wire"I would prefer Powell all day to long than Wane. Powell would bring much more attacking game to Wire than Wane and I think he would gets the best out of the youngsters as well. I also would feel the same cheering Wane on as manager rafter his ******house tactics on Ratchford in the grand final !! Hope it’s announced tonight'"
Head to head on winning things-Wane wins with plenty to spare
Head to head on bringing juniors through-Wane wins by an absolute landslide
Depends what you’re looking for I guess.
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| 1. I don't want Powell.
2. I think that we'd probably win the big one with Wane. I do wonder a little if his cherry and white blood was the real driving force at Wigan rather than being the ultimate in coaching, but he seems to hate losing which is a good attitude.
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| Quote ="Oxford Exile"The 'big' half time announcement today.... a Chris Hill testimonial calendar.... featuring naked players.'"
Reminds me of Ken Davy doing this at Huddersfield ten years or so ago before a game near the end of a season. They announced free admission for a game against Catalans, to get the fans in for an announcement that they trailed as being one of the most significant in the club's history. The papers picked up on it and speculated that Huddersfield had signed Darren Lockyer. There was an excited buzz as Ken Davy took the stage at half time and made a long winded speech about how far the club had come etc and then made the announcement: discount on season tickets for next season and children under 12 come in free with an accompanying adult.
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| I like Wane but would be perfectly happy with Powell.
This stuff about him being a 'moaner' is a complete red herring. Have you ever been on this board after we have lost. It is always full of posts moaning about the ref, the other teams spoiling tactics, trainer being on the field too much, other team's coach being a gobsheet.
If Powell comes to us and starts moaning about this stuff people will say: well said, finally we have a coach who is willing to tell it like it is to the 'establishment'.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Head to head on winning things-Wane wins with plenty to spare
Head to head on bringing juniors through-Wane wins by an absolute landslide
Depends what you’re looking for I guess.'"
Wane would of always had the pick of youngsters joining Wigan same as St Helens have. With our academy starting to produce young players and the training facilities at Warrington, I think Powell could win the grand final with us and with a more attractive style wane would play with
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| Powell for me. Wane did some very good things with one club having inherited a ready-made squad and a winning culture. I’d really have wanted to see what he could do at another club before we gambled on him.
Powell had a decent blooding as temporary Leeds coach followed by turning around Featherstone. He then had a very average Castleford squad that he repeatedly seemed to get the best out of. I think last season he suffered from the Tony Smith syndrome. He’s just been there too long. You don’t see Wigan or Saints persisting with a top coach that long even after a couple of trophies.
As for the moaning, who cares. Focus on the play and turn off the TV during the after-match and interviews.
On a separate note, our youngsters coming through look to be the best all-round potential professional athletes we’ve had for years. And we seem to have a few in all the key positions - Dean, Thewlis, Roebuck, Robson, Longstaff to name a few. I’d love to see what Powell or Wane could do with these guys.
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| Powell is not where this club should be and that appointment would be a poor one and show a real lack of ambition. It will be a British coach and Wane is the best solution. We have an unbelievable academy structure and have invested heavily in that, Wanes record bringing academy players is second to none together with his winning record and mentality.
Incidentally , Wane . May not want the job to be fair .
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Head to head on winning things-Wane wins with plenty to spare
Head to head on bringing juniors through-Wane wins by an absolute landslide
Depends what you’re looking for I guess.'"
Given the same players and resources would the trophies won by each read the same as they currently do? I don't think so personally. Would cas have been better recently with wane in charge? Again I don't think so. Its hardly a fair comparison to compare head to head is it?
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| I don’t mind Powell. I’d be happy with either but would take Wane out of the two.
At least with Powell we’d be able to watch some great attacking rugby.
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"I don’t mind Powell. I’d be happy with either but would take Wane out of the two.
At least with Powell we’d be able to watch some great attacking rugby.'"
I would prefer Powell personally, but I do agree I'd be happy with either. Wane was the most likable Wigan coach of my lifetime after Millward. Powell can be a hit miserable after a loss but I am as well usually, I wouldnt really want our coach to be chirpy after a defeat but to have our players playing like Powells cas teams when fully fit, yes please.
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| If Wire “play the Wire way” in 2021 and end up finishing top of SL and winning the GF, like Wigan did under Maguire, to then be succeeded by assistant Shaun Wane, shouldn’t Wire offer the position Price vacates, in the same way, to Henderson?
Only saying.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"If Wire “play the Wire way” in 2021 and end up finishing top of SL and winning the GF, like Wigan did under Maguire, to then be succeeded by assistant Shaun Wane, shouldn’t Wire offer the position Price vacates, in the same way, to Henderson?
Only saying.'"
From what we've seen that's a big IF. The key in succession planning is success.
However I agree that succession planning in any business let alone sports club is something to strive for you've only got to look at the boot room mentality at a certain association football club in the 70s for a blueprint.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"I like Wane but would be perfectly happy with Powell.
This stuff about him being a 'moaner' is a complete red herring. Have you ever been on this board after we have lost. It is always full of posts moaning about the ref, the other teams spoiling tactics, trainer being on the field too much, other team's coach being a gobsheet.
If Powell comes to us and starts moaning about this stuff people will say: well said, finally we have a coach who is willing to tell it like it is to the 'establishment'.'"
It’s a good point, all fans do it. All the fans on here wanting Wane we all hated him at Wigan but will have him here in a heartbeat, and yes Powell looks as happy as turkey at a pre xmas drinks party but we would be on his side if we thought we had reason to be.
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| At least it'll keep the forum ticking over, regardless who we get we can always rely on a few future threads saying we should have gone for Wane/Powell /AN Other instead.
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| Quote ="CW8"Powell can be a hit miserable after a loss but I am as well usually, I wouldnt really want our coach to be chirpy after a defeat '"
oh yeah the last thing you want to hear is "I thought there were a lot of positives in the way we played..." for the fourth week running during a losing streak
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| Quote ="easyWire"Powell for me. Wane did some very good things with one club having inherited a ready-made squad and a winning culture. I’d really have wanted to see what he could do at another club before we gambled on him.
Powell had a decent blooding as temporary Leeds coach followed by turning around Featherstone. He then had a very average Castleford squad that he repeatedly seemed to get the best out of. I think last season he suffered from the Tony Smith syndrome. He’s just been there too long. '"
Powell took over a team that was bottom of the league in 2013 and in 4 years had them top of the table.
He didn't have the budget to bring in big name galactico signings, and they were still a selling club. During that 4 year revival Cas lost their best player three times, (Rangi Chase, Daryl Clark, Denny Solomona) and Powell still kept improving them, and playing good attacking rugby too.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"Powell took over a team that was bottom of the league in 2013 and in 4 years had them top of the table.
He didn't have the budget to bring in big name galactico signings, and they were still a selling club. During that 4 year revival Cas lost their best player three times, (Rangi Chase, Daryl Clark, Denny Solomona) and Powell still kept improving them, and playing good attacking rugby too.'"
You really are hard selling him, you got a bet on him for next coach
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"Powell took over a team that was bottom of the league in 2013 and in 4 years had them top of the table.
He didn't have the budget to bring in big name galactico signings, and they were still a selling club. During that 4 year revival Cas lost their best player three times, (Rangi Chase, Daryl Clark, Denny Solomona) and Powell still kept improving them, and playing good attacking rugby too.'"
I'm gutted DP will be leaving us but some of our play the last few years has been dross. We were hugely spoiled In 2017 and never replaced Zak. I do think now we have Evalds we will have a good year if Trueman and Richardson stay fit. Powell at wire with the £ and facilities will flourish. Something he never really had at Cas as we don't have a great deal of £ and our facilities suck.
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| Just a thought. Some coaches can do an admirable job without funds, but when they get the millions can't handle the ego's in the dressing room. i suppose a lot will depend on what influence any new coach has on who is signed.
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| Powell was given absolute power at Cas and thrived. Think too many cooks at Wire, and will not be a good fit. Wane worked at Wigan because he is so part of the town and ethos.....
I actually think Brian Mac would be best fit for you. He'd sort out some of the egos in the dressing room, and boardroom for that matter...
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