How many breaks were there in the game? I can think of Ashton's one where he panicked and thought he was playing rugby union but that's about it. Saints were truly woeful with the ball, but still managed what five or six repeat sets on your line and more than enough ball in your 20 to have scored enough points to win a game, we just didn't do anything with it. Those aren't hallmarks of a one sided game. Warrington were always in control of the game and thoroughly deserved to win but it wasn't a hammering.

Who's the 3rd top team?
I don't for one minute think Pies are anywhere near as good as Wire and Saints....Hull?
BTW...I think you're alright. You got the bit about my predictions a bit off, but your alright.

I would expect to see a team celebrating “nilling” the opposition, and that’s what they did.No one believes this means we have won anything other than one match in a long season. As for us beating “ half a team” laughable, just laughable. Most impressive for me was the “steel” in the team and the belief as a collective that Saints would not breach the defensive line, as evidenced by the short drop outs.
Attacking rugby including , at last, a proper wingers try.
Don’t want to get too giddy but Ashton has the makings of a little cracker, the break (before the penalty) was quality.
Still someone near me on the question of Ashton said “ he’s not my cup of tea”! No pleasing some!

Criticising Ashton? Oh yeah he paled into insignificance next to the messiah Welsby.

I never said it was a hammering... you’re the one that said it was ‘very close’.... everyone could see it wasn’t close. You were comprehensively outplayed all night.... and scored no points.

I've not read any pundit or Saints fan and almost all of Wire fans saying Saints wouldn't win.

Never in doubt for me but Saints did grind at it for 20 min...after that you could see they were blowing.

Saints are an extremely good side...and it'll be us and them all season. Just at this time...Saints players simply aren't as fit as Wire. Injury excuses account for little...otherwise we'd have used them at Wembley.
Wire have raised the bar as far as fitness goes.

A winning margin of more than 3 converted tries doesnt suggest a close game to me. There is definitely better to come from saints though, they're still the team to beat.

They certainly was last night. Well and truly.

Where have I criticised him? A few of you just see my name on a post and start rage-replying without even reading what I've put.

We seem very fit - to defend 4 or 5 sets of six on our own line showed that.
We seem to have a lot of togetherness and spirit.
We have become defensively tough.
The offloads are back meaning more excitement in attack.

As the Deckchair say Currie had a great game, his hardest test for some time, he went well and long may that continue.

That Instant reaction video was, well truly appalling to watch, truly delusional fan and interviewer

Without doubt Warrington must put Ratch as Captain from he on in, he was immense in his captaincy.

I can't see how Saints can hide behind the missing players excuse, because the team of youngsters that they're going on about got them over our line 3 times and had two more opportunities dragged into touch.

Both teams were very well matched and Saints did enough to win the game. It's just we played and defended better.

Let saddened find his excuses and hide behind his sarcastic little posts. None of them will ever acknowledge that they fielded a strong team capable of winning and got completely played off the park.

"A Wolf does not concern himself with the opinion of sheep."

Early days but the signs are good.

Out of the first two games the only new players added to the 17 have been Gelling and Ashton (you could argue that Burrell didn't count last year). The difference has been;

Ratchford replacing Patton in the halves (we could have done this last year by playing Mamo at FB)
BMM and Currie are injury free and starting to show the form that we expect
General fitness levels. I thought that we took a step backwards last year when we lost John Clarke but Ade Gardner seems to have grown into the role.

I believe that the style of play is a product of the above rather than just being down to a change of tactics

Just hope all saints fans got home OK as trains back to WA19 0SH were cancelled due to a points failure

Agree 100%. The group seem to be a lot happier in their work. I saw dummy runners last night. I thought they were extinct

Very encouraged by the first 2 displays. Price has some headaches coming up over team selection when everybody is fit and healthy.

Where have I denied any of that or been sarcastic? Actually read what I post, I've praised Warrington a lot recently and get responses like I've spat on someones Grandma. Warrington played very, very well. Saints didn't. I'm not panicking about last night because of the lineup we had, but you are right that there was still enough on the field for us to win the game, if we'd approached it right. We had the wrong gameplan and executed it ridiculously badly. You got the tactics right and although far from perfect yourselves, did the basics far better and took the points when the chances presented themselves. Darryl Clark summed it up quite well at the end of the game I thought, not getting carried away as both sides were missing players.

Very dominant performance from Wire, fair play - no complaints.

Very worried about what sort of a team we'll have out vs roosters



I see Tom Lineham has bought into the current Warrington PR approach judging by his post match interview, I'm sure that will nestle in some Saints players minds to draw upon later in the season.

I know fans get riled by this type of thing, I would hope professionals take it for what it is, they should be fully motivated without the need for this to get them going.

Quote ="FearTheVee" I see Tom Lineham has bought into the current Warrington PR approach judging by his post match interview, I'm sure that will nestle in some Saints players minds to draw upon later in the season.'" Which bit? https://youtu.be/KTY3hfX7vlk

Quote ="FearTheVee" I see Tom Lineham has bought into the current Warrington PR approach judging by his post match interview, I'm sure that will nestle in some Saints players minds to draw upon later in the season.'" Which bit? https://youtu.be/KTY3hfX7vlk

Quote ="Wires71":3rj9op99Which bit? https://youtu.be/KTY3hfX7vlk'" . No tries, no points. It's incredible. Anyway, again - well done Wire, should be a cracking fight at the top of the table this season.

Quote ="Wires71":3rj9op99Which bit? https://youtu.be/KTY3hfX7vlk'" . No tries, no points. It's incredible. Anyway, again - well done Wire, should be a cracking fight at the top of the table this season.

It's probably Saints fans you need to say this to not us.

If I was a Saints fan I wouldn't place much emphasis on this result, early season with both teams missing key players. The results that would have grated with me more as a Saints fan were Wembley last year and the semi final playoff in 2018, where Saints lost out on two trophies because of losing to Wire, which is something that would never have happened in the past.

I agree with this which is why I've not been happy with the club's official twitter account trolling Hull and Karl Fitzpatrick baiting Wigan in the media.

When it comes to players though I think its fair enough. The players will know each other socially and its fair enough for players who actually take to the field to have some banter and wind ups between themselves. Lineham might set himself up for a bit of comeback next time the sides meet but he's big enough to handle it.

Different when its club officials, who don't go on the field themselves but are trying to pump up 'controversy' for marketing purposes, using official channels.

thats just lineham being lineham, he's a rugby league savant

Agree with that - we want to be seen as a serious profeessional sport we don't need to have nonsense like fake press conference cancellations.

I think Lineham just sounds a little silly talking about the "formidable St Helens" when we had six out - still, it's heat of the moment stuff and I'm sure his target audience enjoyed it