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| I'm out.
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| I'm done too, last thing I'll say on it.
All these '1st world problems' everyone always offended.
Just by waking up i offend people and in January i had an epiphany, now as long as dont commit a crime, i say what i like.
I dont know 98% of the people on this forum, do you honestly think I'm sat at home worried about what 'spegs' thinks of me?
Trust me, I'm not part of this brave new world that writes rip on facebook at the death of z listers aunties uncle every 5 minutes, i give not a jot who i offend or insult anymore.
Be offended at poverty or war, Syria and the migration crisis, be offended at corporate greed, be offended about something that mattters, engage with the real world and I'll take you seriously
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| All getting a bit deep this
Lineham is not Superman full stop!
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| I personally found the post funny. If you spegs want to take offence, then it's your call. I can't be d checking up but I don't recall
you making any posts apart from making an issue with superman and a wheelchair.
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| Quote ="Wire Yed"It's anyones right to be offended, it's also my right to not care.
Not sorry, I've never give a monkeys about people i don't know.
Theres one of the reason i relinquished my mod badge, fed up of whining tarts who bore the pants off me with petty nosense.
Feel free to report it, bore someone else with you whining'"
It didn't offend me. Far from it. It was just unnecessary and is indicative of a complete lack of wit / intelligence . If you need some tips regarding amusing metaphors, you may want to invest in the Blackadder box set.
You could have used....
Tom Lineham is about as agile as an asthmatic ant laden with some heavy shopping...
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| On a serious note. Tom Lineham 's defensive positioning was really poor at Hull and by the sound of it he is continuing this at Wire. A good coach would remedy this reasonably quickly...then I realised you had Richard Agar.
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| Quote ="spegs"It didn't offend me. Far from it. It was just unnecessary and is indicative of a complete lack of wit / intelligence . If you need some tips regarding amusing metaphors, you may want to invest in the Blackadder box set.
You could have used....
Tom Lineham is about as agile as an asthmatic ant laden with some heavy shopping...'"
By the way, I'm asthmatic and have to use an inhaler. I can't believe how bigoted you are spegs.
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| Can't believe how I tried to act peace maker and end up looking a complete grey tit.
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| Hughes is doing overtime defensively making up for his wings' frailties.
How a 17st guy can get pushed off in the tackle is beyond me.
The kick off that went between him and Hughes was mainly his fault.
Almost touching the ball as it went out from a Saints kick was inept.
I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now but he's got a lot to do to justify his price tag. And I agree that Ormsby is unlucky not to be playing.
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| Hughes is doing overtime defensively making up for his wings' frailties.
How a 17st guy can get pushed off in the tackle is beyond me.
The kick off that went between him and Hughes was mainly his fault.
Almost touching the ball as it went out from a Saints kick was inept.
I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now but he's got a lot to do to justify his price tag. And I agree that Ormsby is unlucky not to be playing.
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| FFS
I'm offended by Wire "fans" CONSTANTLY having a pop at a player, whilst being
a) top of the league
b) most points scored
c) best points difference
d) said player scoring regularly
yes, he's making some mistakes, doesn't everyone, he's doing what he did at Hull....scoring regularly but making the odd mistake. In short, he's doing what we expected. Shouldn't the whingers be directing their ire at Smith and Agar (mind you, Agar's had more stick than necessary) for not addressing Lineham's shortcomings.
Warrington fans.....you can't beat 'em.....shame, in SOME circumstances.
We lost that game COLLECTIVELY. Not because of a winger.
Get a grip.
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"FFS
I'm offended by Wire "fans" CONSTANTLY having a pop at a player, whilst being
a) top of the league
b) most points scored
c) best points difference
d) said player scoring regularly
yes, he's making some mistakes, doesn't everyone, he's doing what he did at Hull....scoring regularly but making the odd mistake. In short, he's doing what we expected. Shouldn't the whingers be directing their ire at Smith and Agar (mind you, Agar's had more stick than necessary) for not addressing Lineham's shortcomings.
Warrington fans.....you can't beat 'em.....shame, in SOME circumstances.
We lost that game COLLECTIVELY. Not because of a winger.
Get a grip.'"
Good post, we weren't brilliant as a team, completion rate and errors brought too much pressure on to ourselves and we suffered for it. We were still only a couple of conversions away from nicking it.
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| Quote ="Gazwire"By the way, I'm asthmatic and have to use an inhaler. I can't believe how bigoted you are spegs.'"
...could be worse....you could be an ant
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| Quote ="fez1"Hughes is doing overtime defensively making up for his wings' frailties.
How a 17st guy can get pushed off in the tackle is beyond me.
The kick off that went between him and Hughes was mainly his fault.
Almost touching the ball as it went out from a Saints kick was inept.
I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now but he's got a lot to do to justify his price tag. And I agree that Ormsby is unlucky not to be playing.'"
Lineham is playing because the club has to justify the fact they have paid a lot of money for him and are continuing to do so via his high wages.
The likelihood of him spending some time in the reserves or out on loan are minimal.
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| Nothing 2 Laps around Vicky Park every day this week and a transfusion of 8 pints of primrose and blue blood cannot fix!
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| 12 games in a Warrington shirt and everyone wants him hung, drawn and quartered. Some people have very shot memories, remember what happened with Matt King? I shall be bringing this thread back up at a later date, maybe when he scores 16 tries in the Grand Final and we take Bevan's statue down and replace him with Lineham. Cut him some slack, he will come good.
Keep the faith
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| Quote ="Moving Forward"12 games in a Warrington shirt and everyone wants him hung, drawn and quartered. Some people have very shot memories, remember what happened with Matt King? I shall be bringing this thread back up at a later date, maybe when he scores 16 tries in the Grand Final and we take Bevan's statue down and replace him with Lineham. Cut him some slack, he will come good.
Keep the faith'"
I don't think anyone wants him 'hung, drawn and quartered' (well I don't at least).
I do think it's reasonable to question how well all our new signings are doing - including Tom.
He's the player who's impressed me with his try scoring - which is a big part of why we signed him - but he's got areas for improvement. The Saints match showed those.
Defensively - not so strong particularly given his size. Pushed off a couple of times and Hughes covered.
Concentration - my view is that he should have taken the kick off that went between him and Hughes.
Concentration - touching the ball as it went out from a Saints kick - he was only saved by his foot being in touch (and I doubt he planned that).
There are other things also but fixing the above is the priority. (All players have things to work on and they concentrate on their own 'priorities', so he's no different in that area.
The coaches will be working with him and I expect us to see improvements to his game through the year.
If he's got a rugby brain he'll learn and fix those issues.
Not all players learn though (Richie Barnett never improved his catching of the high ball for instance during his tine at Hull and here), but Agar in particular must be confident he can.
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| maybe when he scores 16 tries in the Grand Final and we take Bevan's statue down and replace him with Lineham
I think we would have to put a stronger plinth in
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| His metal ar*e would never fit there now that the NE corner is filled in.
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"FFS
I'm offended by Wire "fans" CONSTANTLY having a pop at a player, whilst being
a) top of the league
b) most points scored
c) best points difference
d) said player scoring regularly
yes, he's making some mistakes, doesn't everyone, he's doing what he did at Hull....scoring regularly but making the odd mistake. In short, he's doing what we expected. Shouldn't the whingers be directing their ire at Smith and Agar (mind you, Agar's had more stick than necessary) for not addressing Lineham's shortcomings.
Warrington fans.....you can't beat 'em.....shame, in SOME circumstances.
We lost that game COLLECTIVELY. Not because of a winger.
Get a grip
I think we lost that game because we didn't convert enough 2 pointers, its disappointing when we have had great kickers over the years!
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| Quote ="Snaggletooth"
And conversely we didn't lose the game because of missed conversions. No game is ever lost on one aspect. You may as well point to the poor defensive reads, the lack of push on the ball carrier, poor attacking decisions etc etc etc etc etc
And with regard to Lineham he isn't a nineteen year old kid out of the Academy, he is an established player our club paid a lot of money for so he can and will be subject to scrutiny.
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| Didn't we also lose at Hull through missing the goal kicks.
It seems to me that,over the years, our best performances & trophy wins have happened when our goal kickers have been consistent. Hesford, J Bevan, Hodgson & for the oldies Fraser & Gilfedder among other great kickers.
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| Evans in for Lineham?
Dropped?
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Evans in for Lineham?
Dropped?'"
Yes, disciplinary reasons.. its all in the team for this week thread.
out on the ale until 05.30 with Bailey the night we lost to saints.
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