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| Quote ="Alffi_7"If we sign him great, along with Currie we will have two of the best young, British back row forward prospects in the game.
If he doesn't sign we have no doubt upped his salary at saints, stretching their salary cap more than they wanted. Not all bad.'"
Andre was born in New Zealand, his parents came to England when he was a toddler so that his dad could play. If he gets to international standard he will play for New Zealand there is no question of that.
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| Quote ="Snaggletooth"Andre was born in New Zealand, his parents came to England when he was a toddler so that his dad could play. If he gets to international standard he will play for New Zealand there is no question of that.'"
Potentially could play for either country then? Either way, he is British developed.
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| Quote ="Alffi_7"Potentially could play for either country then? Either way, he is British developed.'"
He is and all credit to those involved at his amateur clubs, Warrington and Sts. Pity he will not be in an England/GB shirt.
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| Quote ="Snaggletooth"He is and all credit to those involved at his amateur clubs, Warrington and Sts. Pity he will not be in an England/GB shirt.'"
Is that a definite then? It's a huge proportion of someone's life for them not to feel like they're English/British.
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| I'd like him in a Wire shirt but certainly not as our marquee signing.
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| rumblings out of saint helens is that his mums been giving cunningham loads of agro for him not playing, and he can't face everyone,
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| Quote ="fez1"I'd like him in a Wire shirt but certainly not as our marquee signing.'"
I've heard our marquee signing will be Tent Waterhouse.
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| I am hearing the lad has done a u turn and is staying at Saints
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| Quote ="paul key"I am hearing the lad has done a u turn and is staying at Saints'"
I heard that too, 3yr deal
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| Quote ="BuckleyStreetWire"Is that a definite then? It's a huge proportion of someone's life for them not to feel like they're English/British.'"
It's a heritage thing with the family ties, which as I am sure you know are very strong with our southern hemisphere friends, the only exception being chase that I remember.
I am sure that the young man feels very English, but family heritage is high on the agenda!
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| Quote ="Wire in Ashton"I heard that too, 3yr deal'"
It wouldn't be a surprise to see him stay at Sts. They are losing one prop to the NRL so there's a bit of light for the game time he and his family want him to have.
Either way it is what it is!
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| I hadn't heard about the Andre but I did hear a whisper about Jack Hughes. Wigan will not want him since they have Bateman, I don't know if he is coming out of contract.
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| Couldn't the lad still choose to play for England/GB as with Fa'asavulu ?
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| Of the current New Zealand squad. How many that are based in Europe play for New Zealand. The answer is zero. So why would he want to play for New Zealand?
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| Quote ="Builth Wells Wire"Of the current New Zealand squad. How many that are based in Europe play for New Zealand. The answer is zero. So why would he want to play for New Zealand?'"
If you call everyone 'dox' and 'uso' you have to play for New Zealand. I think that is the criteria.
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| Quote ="Builth Wells Wire"Of the current New Zealand squad. How many that are based in Europe play for New Zealand. The answer is zero. So why would he want to play for New Zealand?'"
I've refrained from commenting on this thread, as I definitely fell into the category of "annoyed Saints fan" about this rumour, whilst I have no issue with players leaving for more money, there are events in Savelios Saints career which should of bought the club a little bit more loyalty (and maybe have) imo.
Anyway, as others have said, he identifies and gets on with the polynesian contingent much more than others, due to his heritage. However, he played for England at most youth ages, but, when he wasn't selected for England Academy a few years ago, he threw a bit of a hissy fit and declared himself for New Zealand. If it actually counts, given he hasn't actually played for them, I have no idea. As for being based in Europe, he has made it abundantly clear he has every intention to leave for the NRL as soon as possible (there were also rumours last year) - so I imagine its a none issue on his eyes.
Oh, and his mum phoned KC a while back now and complained he wasnt using her son correctly. Up until very recently she was his agent as well, and if rumours are to be believed generally a very big influence on Savelio.
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| his mum sounds a lot like nikau's wife.
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| The more I hear about this guy, the more i dont want him.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"I hadn't heard about the Andre but I did hear a whisper about Jack Hughes. Wigan will not want him since they have Bateman, I don't know if he is coming out of contract.'"
yep bang on. Jack Hughes has signed for next season
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"The more I hear about this guy, the more i dont want him.'"
+1...sounds like a mercenary....with a hard ball mum/agent.
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| Quote ="Oxford Exile"+1...sounds like a mercenary....with a hard ball mum/agent.'"
Sounds like his only issue is his Mum being his agent. If a player's agent had called a club and asked to speak about how he was being used/positionally or in terms of game time ahead of contract negotiations, it wouldn't be an issue. I'll bet that happens all the time. What makes is hard is the fact that it's also his Mum making the call. I'll bet he got royally mocked for that, if it's true.
Still no announcement on this subject BTW. The rumours were not backed up but claimed as concrete by those claiming to be ITK on both sides and they are not now either.
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| Nailed on he is staying at saints... he just cleverly banded these warrington rumours around via friends and family to get a big fat pay rise, which he has done.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"Nailed on he is staying at saints... he just cleverly banded these warrington rumours around via friends and family to get a big fat pay rise, which he has done.'"
No issues with that either. Sounds like his agent is very good at their job.
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| I love this mercenary talk and "agents just out for the biggest ££".. Ha, well no Sherlock. That is life.
Imagine this scenario if you will
You're in work, doing a job you are very happy with. You're happy with the company, you're happy with the work, and you're happy with the location. BUT, you're not happy with your salary and you have raised the issue with your boss on several occasions. Your boss finally agrees to a meeting and says "look Joe Bloggs, you're doing fantastically well but we cant give you the raise you deserve at the moment because we've had a bad year this year. Maybe come back next year". You walk away disappointed.
Next day, a recruitment agency rings you and says they have a job around the corner from your house, doing pretty much what you are doing now, but the salary is x1.5. How does that sound? The company is good, the location is even better, the job role is about the same, and the money is ideal. You go to the interview and you nail it. Next day you have an offer on the table.
You come away thinking "fantastic, I cant really turn this down" BUT, it would mean leaving a company you've been with for years and its a bit of an upheaval. "if only my current company could match this offer or get close to it" you're thinking. "that would be ideal"
So you take your offer back to your current boss and say "Look Mr Boss, I love it here but look what X company have now offered me. Do you see its almost impossible for me to turn this down? Is there really nothing you can do?"
Mr Boss turns around and says "don't accept that offer yet, let me see what I can do"
Low and behold - a day later your boss returns and presents to you a much improved offer. It may not even be exactly the same as the one on the table from the other company but its as close to as your going to get. What are you going to do?
Basically, unless there is a fundamental problem inside their current club, or a lack of opportunity or investment in the team to win things, then money is the ONLY factor for young players in any sport.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"he just cleverly banded these warrington rumours around via friends and family to get a big fat pay rise, which he has done.'"
Completely untrue & potentially libelous unless you can prove what you're alleging.
He has been telling friends, most of whom went to Newman, that he & his family are going back down under at the end of the season. Any mention of him signing for Warrington hasn't come from him.
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