And there, ladies and gentlemen, is the truth

Do not worry i was only joking and pulling the legs.I stop now and get back on Topic now i think boss.

That will be your casual/ultra haha

,ive followed rl for a long time and you wire
have always had an idiot mentallity follow you around.

We left with 5 mins to go. With a 2yr old who was up well past her 6pm bedtime, and a 5 and 7 year old, one of whom had told me about naughty men punching each other. With a 10 min walk to the car, we had NO desire to get caught up in any nonsense outside the ground. We would probably have stayed had we won, but not to the very end of everything. I did not enjoy the match - surrounded by Leeds fans, really hostile (compare to every other match my season ticket has taken me to this year)

Defo feel the difference from Wembley alot more tension in the air and that was before you got in.

Pockets of people goading was stupid I think if we had won the Widnes tvvats near us would of been jumped on.

Couldn*t agree with you more there.....Some of these idiots have been boozing for 7-8 hours then if you are unfortunate to be sitting by them,they spend half the time getting up to go have a pi$$......All for having the kick off time brought forward.....

Sky dictate the kick off time to fit their schedules.

"He who pays the piper etc"

pity aslo the number that dont turn up week on week, otherwise we would both be playing in front of 35K fans at every home gane

If it's going to be 20k of ed up morons, I'll be happy with the usual numbers, really.

Edited: because I can't do sums.

I was at the game last night as a huddersfield fan just going to enjoy the game and as use scored i noticed a man throw a glass bottle down to the bottom tier, bearing in mind it could of knocked someone out or damaged someone, disgrace.

There seems to be a lot of talk about people going in having already consumed a large amount of alcohol beforehand.
I spent 10 minutes arguing with a door steward as he wasn't going to let my 12 year old daughter take her "vuvuzela" into the ground.
The sign behind him clearly shown a picture of an air horn (compressed air type).
I told him I would leave it in the bag I was carrying which he didn't even bother to look in to see what was in it.
He said "yeah !!! and you'll take it out once you get in, I'm not daft"
I said if it was in the bag you wouldn't have seen it anyway.
He still didn't search my bag.
Only when his supervisor came was I allowed to enter and when I reached my seat there was a crescendo of horns all around us.

Rant over.

If that's the same incident I've heard about, the lad who took the beating is a Woolston player and the attackers play for another team local to Warrington (I won't name them here). Seems he's in hospital with his face glued together.

A Warrington family/group near us (North Stand, towards Leeds end) left during the game after some sort of aggro with Leeds fans. I saw 3 young kids, their mother and 1 or 2 blokes leave, looking gutted. I didn't see what went on so won't apportion blame. The police were there but not sure there was much they could do.

Anyway, felt for you all last night, would have been far more deserving champions.

Why not name and shame them horrible scrotes that they are

Doesn't happen that often thankfully BUT how long into the new season before the stewarding at the HJ gets criticised by away supporters for dealing with these kind of drunken idots in the way they deserve. I think last season (god, LAST season already) Hull KR, Wigan and Hull whinges about it but if I am correct only Hull got an "official" reply along the lines of somebody was a bit overzealous. Even some of our own fans will have a whinge when drunken/antagonising indivudals are dealt with. Personally, if they are drunk dont let them in, if they get drunk stop serving them, if they are acting like prats...kick em out.

I previously was an advocate of "banning" alcohol sales at grounds but have now mellowed in my attitude BUT would whole heartedly support a zero-tolerance of anti-social behaviour. However, I do sometimes wonder how much of the lack of action inside the ground is because the local polcie have had a quiet word with the club as at leats the kn##s are detained in one location.

Having been pestered into going to the final by "err in doors" i was shocked at the sheer number of "loons" on the prowl outside the ground. We did a bit of people watching and it seemed like all the SL clubs had sent their "loons" on a day out. The atmosphere was truly intimidating. A huge disappointment after the recent visits to Wembley. Even inside the stadium there were ridiculous scuffles between Wire fans. I too was sat very close to the "loons" that DropKick Murphy speaks about. Their behaviour was as the title says "Disgraceful". More this

and much much less of this

would be a good start. Grown ups with no control of their behaviour should be

He was near us, he was lucky not to be on the end of a bit of trouble. That saints fan sorted him and as for the lad he spent most of the game downstairs.

You will get it every year no stewards or police on the turnstyles so the morons are allowed in. I got the train from Yorkshire which are 2pm was rammed with Leeds fan who 80% where either already on the sauce or had been before getting on the train.

Still not sure why Leeds fans were buying tickets in the wire end when they have been in the old scoreboard end for the last x amount of years.

Apart from a couple of things in the ground I didnt see anything else outside or in central manchester. Was surprised at the amount of Catalan fans having a good weekend away.

Does some of the issue lie with the organisation of the competion, and ticketing distribution? There is no restriction as to who buys tickets in what area, with 'free' sales in the allocated ends through the RFL prior to the qualifying teams reaching the final.

Furthermore perhaps, mixed seating creates its own issues, as the opportunity to move away from any 'idiots' isn't usually an option, unlike with standing terraces.

Fortunately these are still isolated incidents, however there is no clear indication from the RFL that they are actively doing anything to discourage/prevent it from happening.

Sat in the West stand on Saturday (207, just behind the lads with the drums), no more than 20 seats from the block of Leeds fans sat slap bang in the middle of the supposedly 'Warrington' end; I can only assume they got their tickets from the RFL - if they travelled to HJ to deliberately buy tickets in that section then I can only guess at their 'intelligence'. We also had two complete balloons sat three seats away from us who decided to have a pop at each other whilst sat in the middle of many family groups - yeh, way to go lads ... did yourselves proud there, I don't think!

Water off a ducks back to myself, but clearly upset a lot of people. I had a quick word with a copper on the way out and said "I thought you had CCTV covering all parts of this ground?" His answer was simply "We have". Now, had any trouble occurred at a football match at OT (especially when ALL ticket purchasers, whether through the club or RFL can be quickly traced), those responsible would be identified and getting a knock on the door this morning. Has this happened? If not, why not? It's important to me as a fan of RL that the game, with the aid of the police, stamps on these morons quickly, and lets it be known that it wont be tolerated.

i was in 207, that leeds fan with the long hair was a prick.

Grand final or not, if you've got anything about you, you tailor your reactions and celebrations to your surroundings, i was sat within the wigan fans at widnes in 09, yes i celebrated and stuff when we scored,but i did it, then sat down, i never once turned around and wound anyone up, or whooped at all.

I was there as a neutral in the upper quadrant at the "warrington" end. I saw a few incidences that seem to be a recurring theme at the GF. It seems that it is always the drunken element and it really doesn't matter who they support - I have seen people in most clubs colours being ejected.

Around in me (I was in RFL allocated padded seats) and had to move because of one idiot who was obviously coming down from something as his support (of Wire) was bordering on Rabid. But in front there were two others (supporting Leeds) who continually goaded and gestured at the majority further up where the drummer was.

There seemed to be many small skirmishes where people had crossed words about the game or the refs decision - something that could and should be part of the banter we enjoy as fans of the sport.

I have to admit this felt different to Wembley and the Magic Weekend and was pleased I didn't have my children with me as I have in the past. The RFL need to sort this out and give the game back to the real fans and families who deserve to see their side play in what should be any clubs biggest game.

The GF has got progressively worse over the last few years - I have been at the last three, but it is always the same factor that causes trouble - alcohol and not the fans of any specific team.

As an armchair football fan, does this sort of stuff happen at FA cup finals and such like, or does the segregation of fans help?

I would like to think that anyone who witnessed unsavoury events reports them to the RFL with supporting evidence, and ask them what they are going to do about this.

I doubt if I would take my kids if (when?) We get there again.

The first, and most obvious thing to do is move the KO time forward to 2pm. Sad but it will help.

Then move it to a better stadium, in better surroundings with more to do and far enough away to deter the casual drunken numpties from bothering - Millenium Stadium.