quote="Rogues Gallery"SLIM, sincere apologies for last night. I think you know it's not my way to get into petty name calling, I detest it. It shows lack of respect and in many ways a lack of understanding.

It has been a very stressful week, but that shouldn't be reason for my outburst.

However I still think it should be Shaun Edwards'"

the 9 fingered octogenarian in my family has asked me to suggest, kevin iro, with a fist belonging to someone else *not named* attached to his face.

a bit modern art you know.

a first? a fist maybe

yep i suggested dessie tewatting iro! good call!

That's a pretty sad indictment of RL fans really; a shame as it's probably true. Why vandalise a statue to celebrate the game as a whole simply because of club bias (I'm sure it was at least one of these threads where there were people saying they would too).

People might not vandalise a statue of Bobby Moore but I wonder if football fans would be respectful of a statue of a modern day player, if they made statues of Ashley Cole or Rooney etc.

I actually suspect the comparison to football is wrong, as I agree, a statue of a modern football player would be vandalised. Whereas Moore is a sign on the only national team triumph, something they can all get behind; something we don't have the same way in RL.

I strongly doubt that a statue of an RL player outside Wembley would be vandalised. For a start, there's only one really one opportunity to do so, which is Challenge Cup Final day. Much more likely is that it would, on that day, be adorned with a hat or scarf in a rival team's colours.

I agree.
It's a society thing. Someone born like me in the 1940's have too much respect for people and property so a statue celebrating that era would have been o.k. . Society has gone soft on the vandals. No discipline at home or in schools, and we're paying the price.

I like the idea of an agony and ecstasy statue...
two players in nearly identical poses...
Don Fox and Martin Offiah
with plaques explaining why both were heroic players

What about one of Ryan Bailey giving it to Jon Wilkin after the Grand Final to show the same thing.

What about a statue of Stanley Gene, people of his generation would respect it.

Idea train...

if we can't get along. Something faceless?





Something unrelated to players?




maybe a celebration similiar to the Leeds one (hints towards Fox- without reminding everyone of the pain) but with a group of players through the ages (this can include Edwards if rogoues so needs it)

all this sentiment about the older generation being more respectful is a crock, sorry rogues, but graffitti has been arround for genrations if not thousands of years, people born in the 40's were avin it large on the beaches of brighton and bournemouth with their scooters and motorcycles. looking at the past as though it was a great time is somewhat tinted, neigh tainted by nostalgia. people haven't changed that much. human nature certainly hasn't.
as stated bobby moore was a national hero, find a RL equivelant and you'll be onto a winner, stick some one like offiah or edwards and in my opinion you'll be asking for trouble, their acievements are too recent and will act like a red rag to a bull regardless of a token primrose and blue scarf round it's neck when wire visit wembley.
(cue all the "wire won't get there again" nonsense)

The statue should be generic in nature and not of anyone specific. Or maybe symbolic, like maybe something combining a ball, the posts and the number 13.

what about a bronze statue of the cup itself, I personaly think it's one of the best looking cups in sport.

Sean Long has won a record three Lance Todd Trophies.

Or a huge statue of a double 'V' and a rugby ball at the top of the double 'V' with "XIII" engraved on the ball.

None of which were at Wembley, though, which rules him out IMO.

It has to be a POTB. A clear difference bwteen rugby league and union is the lack of a pile on ruck in league. The cleaner and more open to tactics of the play of the ball has to be the way to go.

Which is why I am puttoing forwards jon clarke.

How about a statue of Ryan Bailey, halfway down wembley way backpedaling after his houseery on riles last year

I had no idea Gareth Thomas had posed for CCF programmes.

We have won the RL World Cup 3 times (albeit not at Wembley), the captains were Valentine (54) Ashton (60) and Sullivan (72). Valentine was Scottish, Ashton English, Sullivan Welsh. They were excellent players, but not all time greats. All were true gents who have all sadly passed away.

Any of the 3 would be a great choice.

Has anyone mentioned the beauty that is Mr Rugby League himself "Phil Clarke" he's a cert!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No one knows more about the game than him.

Offiah for me even though it pains me to say it.

This is Ray Frenchs choice in RL weekly or RL Express.

yes Rogues I think one of Jim Sullivan the first wembley winning Capt will bypass all club partisanship.It could also give both teams and a little hirtory abot RL at Wembley.
Of course Wiganers could claim boasting rights ,but that would give us something else to smile about.the jim Sullivan statue is the one for me

just took another look at this pic.the trophy Sully is holding looks like the old championship trophy.I am sure there is one of hime with the CHALLENGE CUP