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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"how can some Aussie be in stitches over Richards getting Man of steel....
Isnt Richards West tigers record points scorer (in a season) in his season there..a season that coincidently they were premiers.
They've been nowhere near since and coincidently Wigan have, hardly something to laugh about. but then an Australian would laugh if he got his own tinkle stuck in a mangle. (Jo, Mrs, or the machine used to dry out clothes in the olden days take your pick.)'"
My bad, it wasn't a player, but the Aussie fans, just found the link now. It was on the Trent Waterhouse thread we had on here a couple of weeks ago (found [url=http://viewtopic.php?f=21&t=495107&hilit=Trent+Waterhouse&start=30here[/url), page 3, St pete's post.
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| Cue the pies claiming he's on alot less then he was here as soon as he signs.
We have got plenty off backs though including the best in the league right now, wonder who will be next seasons big money signing?
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| Quote ="Wire_85"Cue the pies claiming he's on alot less then he was here as soon as he signs.
We have got plenty off backs though including the best in the league right now, wonder who will be next seasons big money signing?'"
To be fair tho he probably wil be....
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| Quote ="worthing wire"I wouldn't either. Richards' biggest asset is his goalkicking, and we have a top notch goalkicker this season (at long last).'"
His 9 trys in 7 games and 125m per match aren't too bad though to be fair especially on the back of an injury that i've seen alot of players struggle to ever come back the same player from.
His Man of Steel award wasn't given on goalkicking either.
He's the best winger in superleague and he'd get in literally any side in the league. I don't say that with tinted specs on either as i'm sensible enough to admit guys like Morley, Monaghan, Briers etc etc would walk a place in our side and pretty much every superleague sides starting thirteens.
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| Quote ="upsetzombie"To be fair tho he probably wil be....'"
He's got Wigan and Saints to chose from plus maybe an offer from us, he will be on less but not the pennies they claim.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"There is no way Richards would have won man of steel if he wasn't a goal kicker.'"
His 29 trys and 11 assists must have had him in the running but it does make him stand out to a point. He's so much more then a player that stands out just because of his goalkicking though. He's a huge bloke who's got decent pace, power, a crazy leap for a high ball and a great handling when he reaches them. He makes the game look so simple but one thing I would say has helped him as much as his goalkicking is the bloke at the side of him. The understanding him and Carmont have is a joy to watch and it will be interesting to see how Richards would get on with a new partner.
I always wonder how we struggle to produce wingers in the mould of Richards, King and Monaghan that are big and powerful but also make the game look simple. We seem to produce loads of little stocky wingers that will give it a proper go but don't have the tools to take the step up to test match level.
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| How many tries and assists did Goulding get on the opposite wing?
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| Thing is though, people go on about his metre making, yes he's a strong runner, but how many of them metres are from kick returns when the wingers drop back? A fair few I'd imagen.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"How many tries and assists did Goulding get on the opposite wing?'"
25 tries.
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| Imagine how many points he would have scored if be had been your goalkicker.
He would have broken wigans point scoring record like Richards did... In that scenario no way would Richards have won MOS
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| I'd love to have Richards in our team but i would not replace King for him. King is just as good of a winger as Richards and a far better Centre. A solution to this argument. Turn the rumour right around and sign Richards and put King as his centre
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| Quote ="inside_man"25 tries.
2 assists.'"
and 1926 metres in comparison to Richards 3670.
The overall quality of Richards and Goulding just doesn't compare.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"and 1926 metres in comparison to Richards 3670.
The overall quality of Richards and Goulding just doesn't compare.'"
I'm not for one minute suggesting he is even half the player...
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"I'm not for one minute suggesting he is even half the player...'"
I don't think anyone would try. The comparisons between Richards, King and Monaghan are fair enough but unfortunately we don't have a winger in this country that comes close to any of them.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I don't think anyone would try. The comparisons between Richards, King and Monaghan are fair enough but unfortunately we don't have a winger in this country that comes close to any of them.'"
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I don't think anyone would try. The comparisons between Richards, King and Monaghan are fair enough but unfortunately we don't have a winger in this country that comes close to any of them.'"
Absolutely.... I was just trying to argue the case for goalkicking playing a part in MOS... From half way into the season the sky team were banging on about the points record and him being nailed on for MOS... They championed him that much everyone knew who was going to win it from probably the half way point.
Just my opnion mind.... But I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have won it without all those points from the boot.
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| This has turned into such a rubbish thread.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"His 29 trys and 11 assists must have had him in the running but it does make him stand out to a point. He's so much more then a player that stands out just because of his goalkicking though. He's a huge bloke who's got decent pace, power, a crazy leap for a high ball and a great handling when he reaches them. He makes the game look so simple but one thing I would say has helped him as much as his goalkicking is the bloke at the side of him. The understanding him and Carmont have is a joy to watch and it will be interesting to see how Richards would get on with a new partner.
I always wonder how we struggle to produce wingers in the mould of Richards, King and Monaghan that are big and powerful but also make the game look simple. We seem to produce loads of little stocky wingers that will give it a proper go but don't have the tools to take the step up to test match level.'"
Simple really, if you are that size over here, straight into the pack you go.
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| Matt King to Wigan? Not sure it makes much odds to me. It's a salary cap issue. If TS decides that, in the chess game that is the salary cap, king is not worth the percentage of the overall wage bill, then so be it. If MM decides he is, then again so be it. He must be a hefty chunk of said cap. Good luck to King wherever he ends up.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"Joel Monaghan is better than both of them anyway.'"
Charnley is better than Monaghan, the stats prove it.
[urlhttp://superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1=2011&hp1=10665&hs2=2011&hp2=2658&stat=tries&season=2011[/url
More meters, more busts, same clean breaks in fewer games similar tries per game and more assists.
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| Of course he is.
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| Lock it now please
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| Quote ="Fearnhead Cross"Lock it now please
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| it was only ever going to go one way wasnt it
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