Cant wait 4 u to watch the match again i suggest u go out and get the dvd this will show u ur precious SAM giving ben the elbow in the head ben then started punching back YES sam STARTED yet another fight. i unfortunatley couldnt go to the match because of working but lucky for me that is in a pub were i manage to watch the match on the tele unlucky for SAM our sola's did grab him n pull him like a rag doll and how the pub laughed for the rest off the night sam deserved it ben did nothing wrong but deffend himself

To quote my daughter......."Oh i just wish somebody would smack him so far into next week, he realises that he aint tough enough to take on the big boys, and stops his mardy lip shaking long enough to concentrate on playing rugby"....... Sometimes teenagers just tell it like it is.

I admire his will to win to a degree, he's such a fierce competitor but he really does need to realise that eventually somebody will tire of his antics and he will get hurt, if could cut down on the petulance a tad.

Also, he looks to me to be the type who 'disconnects' halfway through a game of FIFA when getting a good hiding, and that's just not on, Sam.

I can't be bothered reading this whole thread but would like to mention that Solomona collaring Tomkins was the comedy highlight of the season.

It was actually the other way round. Tomkins chose Westwood, big error.

I thought his was a post about Briers.

He seems to have swapped his foot stamping 'little princess' histrionics to the little school tell tale.

The amount of pointing out other players to the ref he was doing last night i'm suprised he hasn't got RSI.

All credit to the warrington team last night though - they were excellent in defence and deserved the win.

Hang on pal you can't have it both ways. There we three reactions possible to Wigans house tactics.

when a wigan defender comes in third man and attacks the ankle joint of a fellow player - or when richie myler is high tackled and hoffman hits him with the knees for good measure, or tomkins is putting head and elbows into a backrowers face

We can either:
A) do nothing and play on and let disgusting potentially career threatners go unpunished
B) casually inform the ref as we are going off at half time.
C) or stand up to the scrotes

A clearly didn't work B wasn't getting the message across .

C was a final and frustrating outcome to a bad rugby teams tactics i felt we descended to wigans level. But it did the job. And if Sam tomkins got a slap into the bargain too well that's a bonus.

Let's face it, the bloke is known as 'Ratboy' for good reason.

He really is ratboy. If he wasn't playing rugby he would be drinking cider on street corners and mugging old grannies.... Infact it wouldn't surprise me if he does those things anyway.

He is rapidly becoming the El Haj Diuof of RL.

Highlight of the evening


Excellent performance from your guys, your certainly the team to beat.

best description of sam i have ever read, that really gets on my wick.

I can't believe anyone would question Westwoods courage!?

Mind you I must say whether we dislike the player or not, Sam Tomkins has huge ability as an athlete and worked himself into the ground last night trying to get his team back in the game. He is real competitor and has fantastic pace, speed and balance and a real desire to win.

Lets face it, we wouldn't get annoyed at a mediocre player.

One of the few sensible posts on this thread.

I realise that most posters on the forums have very little RL knowledge or are juveniles making juvenile and personal comments, but anybody that seriously thinks that Tomkins was the offending party in the westwood incident is deluded. Westwood did not like being tackled the way that he was, and took exception to it. He should not have got away with throwing the punches from the floor and them another when he stood up, he may get punished but i'm not bothered either way.Westwoods comments when interviewed on sky indicate that he knew he was out of order. Tomkins is sometimes petulant, but is extremely talented and a great competitor and disliked by opposing fans for that reason. he comes in for a lot of rough house tactics but keeps bouncing back.Still looked the most dangerous individual on the pitch last night. He would be one of the first names on the teamsheet at any SL club. it is indicative of his talent that there is another long thread on your board about him. He is also popular amongst fellow superleague players, if not the posters on this forum!

Well played Wire, top drawer stuff. Wigan beaten in every dept by a great performance. Smith has now assembled a team who look like the real deal and in that form they are the team to beat this season. Cannot believe how much Blythe has improved.

there's a difference between 'a desire to win' and cheating or dirty play - he's becoming a nasty piece of work on the field and is losing the respect of many neutral fans IMO
Someone (ie.Rads or similar) need to have a word in his ear...

To quote Jiffy during last years' cup final, when referring to Ryan Bailey at that point, "you live by the sword, you die by the sword".

And if you can't trust someone with the user name 'Hittler' who can you trust?

Was it Leuluai who ran over to young Rhys Evans in the first half after a Warrington move broke down and tried to wind him up?

He is still a young player and he seems to be carrying the weight of expectation for the whole team.

Anyone who wouldn't want him playing in the P&B is clearly crazy.

i'd love to have in my team,nay bother but age isn't an excuse - he's mature enough now professionally to know better IMO
he has far too much talent to have to resort to anything nasty - leave that nonsense to the inferior bully boys.

Hopefully Westwood receives a suspension for assaulting Tomkins.

Assualt, he didn't even connect.

So do I he deserves a rest ....we'll just play Matty Blythe in the Second row and bring top try scorer Riley back


great in' it

The situation was started by Tomkins. There was no assault by Benny. If we are to go down that line it would give players like Tomkins a licence to wind up the opposition in an attempt to get them sent off. Tomkins is playing a dangerous game, very shortly he will try it on with someone and finish up with a good hiding.