On this belief subject, should a young girl in the ROI find it difficult/impossible to have an abortion just because some people believe in a desert fairytale from the middle east?

Atheist

Some interesting theories brought up here, some absolute tosh spoken aswell. having said that, some of my theories may seem like tosh to others. Here's some of mine;

That Jesus fella. Now I'm not denying the existence of a man called Jesus who lived a couple of thousand years ago, not at all. I am of the opinion he's not as great as the bible would make him out to be. I wonder how many people on this thread who have stated that 9/11 could be a conspiracy, yet also believe in all that religious stuff. I was watching a comedian this week and he makes a fairly valid point. Moses went to mount Sinai, talked to a burning bush, bush talked back, etc. Were there any witnesses? No. He then goes on to make other points about other religious beliefs on the same lines.

Whenever someone talks about a hero, or someone they really like, they'll tend to go a bit too far and make that person seem bigger than they were. Spread that game of Chinese whispers through billions of people over 2000 years.....

I firmly believe in most of the big bang theory. I say most because I don't think this theory grasps the true size of the universe. I think the big bang was just our little corner of the universe being created. I'd say that what we call a universe is created all the time, all over the place, some will disappear for various reasons.

Area 51. I think the whole alien theories are entirely false. I'd say Dreamland and the Groom Lake area is just a test bed for secret military weapons and nothing more. You don't want other countries knowing your secret developments of offensive and defensive weaponry, so you keep people out, simple as that.

Area 51 and Roswell may be connected, but only just. I'd say the object recovered from Roswell was a secret military vehicle which had failed and crashed. Think alongside the same lines of stealth bombers crashing behind enemy lines and the pilot destroying the plane before even thinking about any kind of escape and evasion.

September 11th. No conspiracy here in my eyes. I've seen the videos and articles about WT7 and not once have I seen evidence that backs this theory up 100%, or even close to it. There is 2 videos showing the plane crashing at the Pentagon (something which someone earlier questioned). Nobody had ever envisaged a fully laden jet plane crashing into the towers when the building was designed or constructed and so many factors could and probably did contribute to its collapse.

As for WTC7, think of the massive damage this building would have sustained merely from the collapse of the two towers beside it. Look at the pictures of the dust and debris billowing out all over Manhattan as each tower collapsed. This debris was travelling along the streets at hundreds of miles per hour, so imagine how powerful it would have been at the site of the collapse itself, not to mention the vibrations which would have shaken the foundations of the surrounding buildings, which would have weakened them severely. The same goes for the black boxes of the planes. They certainly aren't indestructible, not by a long way. The tapes inside would have been destroyed without doubt, so even if the metal casings had been found, there'd have been nothing left inside them.

Of course you do have the odd miracle in situations like this, where a fireproof metal shard covered a passport at just the correct time to save it being destroyed, or something like that. A lot of this stuff will be consigned to opinions only, there is no way of knowing exactly what happened with everything before, during or after that day. What you have to ask yourself is this; if this is exactly what it is billed as, a terrorist attack, the terrorists will take an awful lot of pleasure in the disruption of relations between citizens and government that conspiracy theories cause.

Global Warming. Or to be precise, the cause of global warming. We, as in humans, are apparently to blame for it, we're causing it. This is total crap. Global warming and cooling trends are a natural occurrence caused by the setup and layout of our planet and the sun.

We may be speeding the event up, but in the grand scheme of things, it's is by a low percentage of a fraction. It's like when experts say that if you eat brown bread you'll live longer. What they don't tell you is it'll only be about 2 weeks longer and it'll be at the back end of your life when you're on the way out and probably suffering anyway. Global warming is going to happen, whether we like it or not, whether we stop farting in fields or drive pedal powered supercars, it will happen at some point in the future. It'll take tens of thousands of years to get to the point where it effects us on a mass scale and basically all we can do is pick which generation it affects first.

2 points for anyone who can tell me why the melting polar icecaps will not cause the ocean levels to rise.

Media Controlled Information. No doubting it exists at some level. People believe what they read and some believe things that don't actually make any sense whatsoever and are impossible events.

Everything causes cancer these days according to the press and the experts that the press pay to agree with them. You have to wonder how much of things we are told are true, or just scare tactics or sensationalist reporting. The way I see the modern social networking world is that people love to gossip and when there is nothing to gossip about, they'll make stuff up.



Obviously the difference in some of these points make me a hypocrite. but it's no different than anybody else. There is no idealistic point of view, nobody will ever know the entire truth about everything because by time that time comes around, this planet will not be inhabited by humans. Humanity will die out on this planet one day, as will every species known to man, or ever known to man. They will be replaced by other species which have adapted better to the changing conditions over millions of years.

Anything to do with Archimedes theory? Put ice in a glass of water and the water level will rise. As the ice melts the water level will remain constant?

Icebergs (as ice) currently displace water by their mass. When they melt (sink) they will effectively 'displace' by volume.

whilst i agree that loose change is mostly nonsense, i still think what the guy in your link is saying is crap. The guy would'nt be dead if loose change were true cause the easiest way to confirm a theory is to eliminate the author. The US and other govts like to discredit anybody they deem a threat, Not assassination more character assassination.

No she can just cross the border. If she's an EU citizen it's hardly difficult to come into the UK is it, although I'm sure they will try to talk her out of having the abortion with promises of a flat and benefits...

Not quite.

A) If she crosses into NI, she still can't as we have failed to make NI continue.

B) What does a woman on benefit do?

Greenland isn't a polar ice cap. Google that and global warming. Also Antarctica isn't an ice cap. It has land and big glaciers that will melt. How did the companies manage to convince people that scientists are lying to them. Why would they?

i thnk that there alot of things government know, but don't tell the public for good reasons as in some cases panic sets in and cause massiv riots in the country.

You never....

just watched video on 9/11 and saying bombs were in the building and calling poeple out of there. one question..........why are there bombs in the building?

the theory was that the towers fell in the way they did because it was a controlled demolition....hence the explosives.

If you like conspiracies and politics, a good book is "A Very British Coup" by Chris Mullin. It's a novel but it's well written as Chris Mullin the author was an MP and had a good knowledge of how government works. Basic plot is that its the early 1980s, a left wing Labour Prime Minister has been elected, he wants to force the American airbases out of Britain, so the CIA, MI5 and the British 'establishment' work together to make sure that the Prime Minister and his government are 'dealt with'.

It's a good book just as a story, and it was made into a three episode drama in the late 1980s which you can watch on 4ondemand (just google "A Very British Coup" and it will come up). The drama had a young Keith Allen as the Prime Minister's Press Secretary. Alastair Campbell was involved in making the drama, and its interesting to see Keith Allen basically playing the type of person Campbell would go on to be himself ten years later....

After he wrote the book (which was popular) Chris Mullin got invited to the US embassy in London where the US ambassador expressed his concerns....Mullin thought that it would be a pretty insignificant book, but as later came out, the plot of his novel touched a nerve because there had indeed been contingency plans made on both sides of the Atlantic when Thatcher was at her most unpopular in the early 1980s and they feared Michael Foot would be elected, and potentially succeeded by Tony Benn. Plans were in place it make sure it was "politically difficult" for any such Bennite regime to last....

love a bit of conspiracy theories

Type in The power of nightmares on youtube and see how consecutive American governments have fooled the world.

Take note of Rumsfeld speech to the Un in 72ish and 2002ish. Just change communism for al-qaeda...

Watch zeitgeist and zeitgeist 2, it's great for the conspiracy theorists, it's tosh but entertaining

Quote ="Lefty"Greenland isn't a polar ice cap. Google that and global warming. Also Antarctica isn't an ice cap. It has land and big glaciers that will melt. How did the companies manage to convince people that scientists are lying to them. Why would they?'" The earth is 4.5 billion years old and for the last 2 million of these the earth has had periods of warmth and cold, i.e ice ages. The last one of these ended about 10000-14000 years ago. The colder periods last for around 100000 years followed by warmer periods of around 10000 years. So in effect we are due another ice age and should be coming towards the end of our warmer period, although mankind's alteration of the atmosphere through greenhouse gas pollution makes predicting the next ice age increasingly difficult. Just because we live in an age of technology doesnt mean the earths cycles stop. We as a race have managed through pollution, to slow down these changes though and the scientific evidence is simply too overwhelming to ignore. anybody interested in climate change may find this link useful www.ace.mmu.ac.uk/eae/climate_ch ... hange.html

Quote ="Lefty"Greenland isn't a polar ice cap. Google that and global warming. Also Antarctica isn't an ice cap. It has land and big glaciers that will melt. How did the companies manage to convince people that scientists are lying to them. Why would they?'" The earth is 4.5 billion years old and for the last 2 million of these the earth has had periods of warmth and cold, i.e ice ages. The last one of these ended about 10000-14000 years ago. The colder periods last for around 100000 years followed by warmer periods of around 10000 years. So in effect we are due another ice age and should be coming towards the end of our warmer period, although mankind's alteration of the atmosphere through greenhouse gas pollution makes predicting the next ice age increasingly difficult. Just because we live in an age of technology doesnt mean the earths cycles stop. We as a race have managed through pollution, to slow down these changes though and the scientific evidence is simply too overwhelming to ignore. anybody interested in climate change may find this link useful www.ace.mmu.ac.uk/eae/climate_ch ... hange.html

i think you misunderstood what that sentance means. To slow down the earths natural climate change is bad. We are solely responsible for this happening specially over the last 200 years. Carbon gasses are very important to the greenhouse effect we have created so by reducing these we are playing our part in correcting the mistakes of previous generations. Im certainly no scientist and could never offer a real informed view on climate change. But i do know enough to be very worried for my children and future grandchildren.

That Simon Cowell is the devil in disguise.

I don't see any disguise!

unless he's cleverly disguised as a pr1ck!

It now seems that dr David Kelly did commit suicide afterall. The government has just released previous unseen documents.