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| Quote ="cherry pie x111"leeds have annpunced there squad'"
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| but having Monas at 7 doesn't mean he won't have a role to play out of dummy half.....these days we are much more flexible...its more a 'total' rugby ethos (think Dutch football circa 1970)...where players just play....and have an influence in lots of positions regardless of the number on their backs. Look at how we pack down...you have in the second row and second rowers out in the backs.....
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| first half against hull, monas was very reminiscent of 08 in his stint at half back. it was a bit worrying.
tbh, in response to robs point, i hadn't even took the move from monas into account, i was just worried about the loss of myler.
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| It's madness taking Monaghan away from 9 for such a big game. Then again, what do I know...
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| Monas at half back is a depressing thought.
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| Can I go on record as saying that this is a mental decision and that if Myler doesn't start/play we will definitely lose. Not saying he MUST play but I can't understand this decision if we've left out our best broken field runner.
*now if we lose at all, I look clever. If we win? Who cares, Back2Back wins.
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| Quote ="Cat #2"first half against hull, monas was very reminiscent of 08 in his stint at half back. it was a bit worrying.
tbh, in response to robs point, i hadn't even took the move from monas into account, i was just worried about the loss of myler.'"
Although you could say Clarke at 9 and Mona's in the halves in the semi worked very well but then we had the chance to bring Myler on.
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| Quote ="Ian 77 Redux"Can I go on record as saying that this is a mental decision and that if Myler doesn't start/play we will definitely lose. Not saying he MUST play but I can't understand this decision if we've left out our best broken field runner.
*now if we lose at all, I look clever. If we win? Who cares, Back2Back wins.'"
I wouldn't say he's your best broken field runner. Best support player yes, but not best broken field runner.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"I wouldn't say he's your best broken field runner. Best support player yes, but not best broken field runner.'"
Probably fair comment but he can't half finish.
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| Quote ="Ian 77 Redux"Probably fair comment but he can't half finish.'"
I think in a play-off style intensity game with Leeds - Smith has made the right call.
Not Myler's sort of game IMO, but then I don't watch him as often as you lot.
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| If you compare Tomkins and Mylers stats, Mylers error and missed tackles are high, which is probably why Smith may leave him out.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"I think in a play-off style intensity game with Leeds - Smith has made the right call.
Not Myler's sort of game IMO, but then I don't watch him as often as you lot.'"
This is what I said before though you leave him out on Saturday how can you make a case for him to play in the big playoff games?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"If you compare Tomkins and Mylers stats, Mylers error and missed tackles are high, which is probably why Smith may leave him out.'"
But Myler creates and scores more combined......with ease.
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| Quote ="Mark"But Myler creates and scores more combined......with ease.
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if tomkins played for us there is no way smith would consider dropping him for a final.
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| Myler tries/assists per game ratio- 1.38
Tomkins tries/assists per game ratio- 1.15
Myler has missed more tackles and made more errors, but Tomkins has give away 13 more penalties. Both stats can be damaging to a team.
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| I'm pretty sure Smith has not based his decision on the selection of the team on a comparison with Sam Tomkins who plays for Wigan - a team completely irrelevant to the final.
It's more likely that Smith will compare the merits of Myler to Clarke, Higham, Monaghan and Briers before making his decision.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"If you compare Tomkins and Mylers stats, Mylers error and missed tackles are high, which is probably why Smith may leave him out.'"
Smith has dropped Myler because his stats are not as good as Tomkins.
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| Quote ="Mark"Myler tries/assists per game ratio- 1.38
Tomkins tries/assists per game ratio- 1.15
Myler has missed more tackles and made more errors, but Tomkins has give away 13 more penalties. Both stats can be damaging to a team.'"
you can use stats all you like..... as a player tomkins is way ahead of myler at present.
myler has vulnerabilities in his game that tomkins doesnt.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"you can use stats all you like..... as a player tomkins is way ahead of myler at present.
myler has vulnerabilities in his game that tomkins doesnt.'"
Just proving to the Wigan fan that stats means jack. He wanted a cheap way of having a dig at Myler an a chance to bum Tomkins up, I was just showing him that stats can be favourable to Myler as well.
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| Quote ="Mark"Just proving to the Wigan fan that stats means jack. He wanted a cheap way of having a dig at Myler an a chance to bum Tomkins up, I was just showing him that stats can be favourable to Myler as well.'"
fair enough
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| Quote ="manoa thompsons knees"Smith has dropped Myler because his stats are not as good as Tomkins.
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Nope, cause they're better.
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| Quote ="Mark"Myler tries/assists per game ratio- 1.38
Tomkins tries/assists per game ratio- 1.15'"
Tomkins has been playing at fullback for a while so i'd expect his assist stats to drop below that of a scrum half, also when he played at half back he was an individual type half back like Eastmond that didn't do assists that often.
Myler should have more asissits as he rarely looks to take the line on, he'd rather pass it then look for a possible opening.
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| Quote ="Mark"Just proving to the Wigan fan that stats means jack. He wanted a cheap way of having a dig at Myler an a chance to bum Tomkins up, I was just showing him that stats can be favourable to Myler as well.'" #
I wasn't having a cheap dig at Myler, just explaining the reasons why Smith may not select him.
Last year when Myler was at Salford, Shaun Wane in his pre match address to the spectators in the South Stand bar (prior to the Wigan v Salford Cup game) openly stated that Wigan would target Mylers weakness in defence and they did. So much that McRae moved Myler to the wing position at times in the game to allow other players to defend in Mylers position.
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