correct ...and I fully expect us to surpass Man United's record of going 25 years without a league title.....

i'm okay with that as my "first" club hasnt won a league title since 1955



but were not that far away at the minute right on the tail of the chokers...

ah I see what you did you listed two great players who were not very succesful Managers.......in a kind of comparison with great player Dalglish who was a very succesful manager. Infact winning the double in his first season as manager aged 34

I'm surprised you didnt mention that Man United missed a trick two years ago, when they should have replaced Fergie with 34 year old Ryan Giggs......

good riddance rafa.
anyone who thinks lucas is a good player and deserves to start every week needs sacking.
lucas woulndt get into any other pl team FACT!

Well I was just being a bit cheeky with that one because you were arguing that he would be a better choice than Hodgson say because he would be more likely to attract players on the strength of him being a former great player himself, I don't think that influences players that much to be honest especially the current generation of players who probably never saw Dalglish play. I reckon players just get attracted to playing for managers who are known as great managers (eg Mourinho, Wenger) even if they were non-entities as players. I do agree though that Dalglish is a proven top manager in his own right, whereas the jury is still out on Klinsmann and Keegan. I think it's a shame Dalglish left management so young.

It doesn't hurt at all and at the end of the day picking up the trophy at the end is what it's all about. But I was just pointing out there was a lot of good fortune in winning the trophy that year rather than some god like manager sweeping all before him.





Which bit.

Please tell me you're not a Liverpool fan.

Dalglish has apparently told Liverpool he wants to be considered for the position... www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010 ... el-benitez

Dalglish has apparently told Liverpool he wants to be considered for the position... www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010 ... el-benitez

No cups for 4 years, nowhere near winning the league.

THIS IS LIVERPOOL FC. THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. WE SHOULD NOT ACCEPT LOSING 19 GAMES IN A SEASON.


if i met him in the street i would thank him for what is my joint favourite sporting moment in my trip to Istanbul in 2005 just like i would thank Paul Cullen for saving Wires from relegation but the facts are that we are not good enough with him in charge so time for change.

LFC need a Tony Smith type character.
Houllier won more than Benitez did for Liverpool in one calender year at Liverpool yet he was not deemed to be good enough even finishing 4th

I believe that i will be proven right and next season Inter Milan will win nothing and he will be back in Spain by 2012

Think I rate winning the Champions League bit more then winning the Uefa Cup/Fa Cup/League Cup which wasn't a fluke as he got us back to another Champions League final in 2007 how did Houllier do in the Champions League for us?

Most funny thing of all is people think things are going to get better now Rafa has gone.

Clueless

It will be at least 20 years before we get near another CL final the way things are.

Rafa isn't a 'man manager', never has been never will be. He's not a hands on coach at all. Carragher in his book makes this clear, Rafa isn't bothered how your kids are, what the wife is upto, how the folks are getting on, he's just tactics & team selection and this will alienate from a category of footballer, others no doubt will like this. Gerrard & Torres I think this year have felt like they could do with an arm around the shoulder, and it hasn't been there.

Rafa has done an okay job, no more or less, he's leaving behind a spine of a good side, if he'd have been able to work out the pieces on the fringe of the spine he'd potentially have done a great job but he couldn't make it work, 417 rightbacks in 6 years for example, he's never got to grips with left midfield, Mark Gonzalez, Kewell, Riera, Babel have all cost good money and delivered little yet sides have found Bale, Young, Malouda etc in that time.

They need a fresh approach without doubt.

Massive pay-off.........and then gets picked up by Inter Milan. I just don't get it.

Another sensible Liverpool fan to join Birchy then. You'd better watch the Rafaites don't round you up and flog you outside the kop.

Football is a girls game.

rafa was clueless about how to win the league in england. he knew how to play against european teams as he did in spain and in the champions league but liverpool need a better manager then rafa or hodgson to win the pl title

Rafa blew his best chance of winning the league two seasons ago when he got stucked in to a verbal war with Fergie. Fergie had been there done that so had the credentials and the sucess to back up his comments where as Rafa didn't and he fell hook line and sinker for it.

He was a good manager and what Liverpool needed 6 years ago but he was never going to take us any further after this season with some of the decisions he has made and lost the backing of some of the senior and top earners.

Not sure who is best to replace him I like what Jorge Jesus has done at Benfica, King Kenny has been there and done that but has he got it in him to do it again? can the press survive the press conferences not understanding a word he says? Roy Hodgson seems to be the best option

I quite like Roy Hodgson but I reckon if Liverpool appoint him, the fans will probably give him a fair shot because they are usually quite fair minded and he comes over as a decent bloke, but I reckon Liverpool under Hodgson would probably hover around 5th for a while, then after 3-4 seasons the verdict from the fans would be 'he steadied the ship after Rafa but we need someone to take us to the next level'.

Is going from a classless, fat Spanish waiter to a benefit cheat actually an improvement?

Are you a full time tool or is it just a part time thing.

LOL. PY is very dilligent. Often working overtime.

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Legend

Yeah, very generous. The club give him £6 million and he gives 96k away. What a guy.

Thats low even for you.

How is it low? It's a very good deed giving away 96k and the cause is a very good one. It's obviously easier to do when you've come into 6 million.