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| Quote ="silver2"Isn't this a RL forum???'"
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| Quote ="Les Boyd Is God"read the todays daily mirror a council (cant remember where) had someones flags removed for health and safety..then they backtracked..this is only the start of it...disgrace'"
I heard of a story the other day (may be the same one) that some woman had strung a load of England flags across the road tied to two lamp posts. The council rules were that nothing was allowed to be tied to lamp posts so the order went out for someone to take them down due to health and safety grounds.
This has nothing to do with being anti England or fear of offending anyone, just that you can't go and tie anything to a lamp post and string flags across the road.
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| Quote ="silver2"Isn't this a RL forum???'"
I like to think of it has a forum for Warrington fans. Because Warrington RLFC is the most common denominator amongst us all, that's what gets talked about the most but I like all the OT threads as well. The more the better.
Do you go on every off topic thread and ask this question, or just when it's football being discussed?
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| Quote ="latchfordbob"I heard of a story the other day (may be the same one) that some woman had strung a load of England flags across the road tied to two lamp posts. The council rules were that nothing was allowed to be tied to lamp posts so the order went out for someone to take them down due to health and safety grounds.
This has nothing to do with being anti England or fear of offending anyone, just that you can't go and tie anything to a lamp post and string flags across the road.'"
Why not, we used to?
Also if we can have a Notting Hill Carnival which results in the below, surely a few flags across the street are not too much to ask?
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| Quote ="Wires71"Why not, we used to?
Also if we can have a Notting Hill Carnival which results in the below, surely a few flags across the street are not too much to ask?'"
No reason why we can't really, the health and safety laws that we have nowadays really are over the top, as is the compensation culture (imagine a flag you've tied across the road falls on a car that then crashes).
The thing that annoys me is that the media, especially the likes of the daily mail and daily express spin this out to be an anti england gesture and it spirals out of control until everyone is saying "dem foriners wont let us fly r flag cus it ofends dem"
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Quote ="latchfordbob"
The thing that annoys me is that the media, especially the likes of the daily mail and daily express spin this out to be an anti england gesture and it spirals out of control until everyone is saying "dem foriners wont let us fly r flag cus it ofends dem"'"
To be fair the Cross of St George does cause upset to certain Muslims in the middle-east (and UK) as it will be forever associated with the crusades. Having said that it is the national flag of England, we live in England and I am proud to be English so it's a case of put up with it or leave.
Here is the evidence of one example where Prison Officers were stopped from wearing a St George badge. Taken from edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europ ... index.html
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[iA lot of Muslims and Arabs view the Crusades as a bloody episode in our history," he told CNN. "They see those campaigns as Christendom launching a brutal holy war against Islam.
"Muslim or Arab prisoners could take umbrage if staff wore a red cross badge. It's also got associations with the far-right. Prison officers should be seen to be neutral."
Doyle added that it was now time for England to find a new flag and a patron saint who is "not associated with our bloody past and one we can all identify with."[/i'"
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The thing that annoys me is that the media, especially the likes of the daily mail and daily express spin this out to be an anti england gesture and it spirals out of control until everyone is saying "dem foriners wont let us fly r flag cus it ofends dem"'"
To be fair the Cross of St George does cause upset to certain Muslims in the middle-east (and UK) as it will be forever associated with the crusades. Having said that it is the national flag of England, we live in England and I am proud to be English so it's a case of put up with it or leave.
Here is the evidence of one example where Prison Officers were stopped from wearing a St George badge. Taken from edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europ ... index.html
Quote ="CNN"
[iA lot of Muslims and Arabs view the Crusades as a bloody episode in our history," he told CNN. "They see those campaigns as Christendom launching a brutal holy war against Islam.
"Muslim or Arab prisoners could take umbrage if staff wore a red cross badge. It's also got associations with the far-right. Prison officers should be seen to be neutral."
Doyle added that it was now time for England to find a new flag and a patron saint who is "not associated with our bloody past and one we can all identify with."[/i'"
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| It's not just the English flag which upsets the followers of Islam either. You will note they have not even made it correctly. LOL.
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| 10/10 for effort and enthusiasm though....
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| Quote ="worthing wire"Spain's final squad:
Goalkeepers: Iker Casillas (Real Madrid), Jose Manuel 'Pepe' Reina (Liverpool), Victor Valdes (Barcelona).
Defenders: Raul Albiol (Real Madrid), Alvaro Arbeloa (Real Madrid), Joan Capdevila (Villarreal), Carlos Marchena (Valencia), Gerard Pique (Barcelona), Carles Puyol (Barcelona), Sergio Ramos (Real Madrid).
Midfielders: Xabier Alonso (Real Madrid), Sergio Busquets (Barcelona), Cesc Fabregas (Arsenal), Andres Iniesta (Barcelona), Javier Martinez (Athletic Bilbao), David Silva (Valencia), Xavi Hernandez (Barcelona).
Forwards: Jesus Navas (Sevilla), Juan Manuel Mata (Valencia), Pedro Rodriguez (Barcelona), Fernando Llorente (Athletic Bilbao), Fernando Torres (Liverpool), David Villa (Valencia)
Garbage
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First World Cup I can remember is 1990, but that is the strongest squad I have ever seen assembled for a tournament. There aren't really any weaknesses in there at all.
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| Quote ="latchfordbob"The thing that annoys me is that the media, especially the likes of the daily mail and daily express spin this out to be an anti england gesture and it spirals out of control until everyone is saying "dem foriners wont let us fly r flag cus it ofends dem"'"
Exactly. I quite enjoy seeing how much this winds up the tabloid reading masses, but then I'm not the sort of person that would want to fly an England flag anyway.
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| Quote ="FireWire"Exactly. I quite enjoy seeing how much this winds up the tabloid reading masses, but then I'm not the sort of person that would want to fly an England flag anyway.'"
Pray tell us, what sort of person does fly an England flag then under your generalisation?
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| Quote ="Wires71"Pray tell us, what sort of person does fly an England flag then under your generalisation?'"
An England fan.
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| If people want to wave a flag its fair enough, its just like waving a Warrington flag I don't see a big issue.
In fact I would make town halls and buildings like that fly the England flag, or the Union flag, when you go to France in every little small provincial village you can tell what the government buildings are because they fly the tricolor.
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| Less than 24 hours to go then until the feast of football begins.
How selfish of Wire to have a match tomorrow that clashes with France v Uruguay. I'm a proper football geek, so will probably tape it to watch before I go out on Saturday, could be one of the best games of the group stages.
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| Quote ="FireWire"Less than 24 hours to go then until the feast of football begins.
How selfish of Wire to have a match tomorrow that clashes with France v Uruguay. I'm a proper football geek, so will probably tape it to watch before I go out on Saturday, could be one of the best games of the group stages.'"
same i like to watch as many games as possible but wire obviously comes first so will have to see higlights of france v uruguay, glad i finish college at 12 so i can get home to watch south africa v mexico could be an interesting group that
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| Quote ="WersYourMylerGone"same i like to watch as many games as possible but wire obviously comes first so will have to see higlights of france v uruguay, glad i finish college at 12 so i can get home to watch south africa v mexico
could be an interesting group that'"
Won't be watching it - crap.
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| Quote ="JWP"I sit next to a United fan in work, we're doing a world cup dreamteam as usual, here's his team :
Kleberson,
Says it all.'"
As he made the Brazil squad?????....
If so, then it shows that those supposed magic men of Brazil are just as human as any other team....Add Robinho to the equation and it shows more than enough of a reason why England should be confident of beating anybody if only they can produce a team quality to match their parts.
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| What a goal!
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| South Korea V Greece at 1200.
Argentina V Nigeria at 230.
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| I'll be watching that Argentina match looks a cracker
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| USA! USA! USA!
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| I just sat down to watch the first bit of the world cup that i have had a chance too.
How bloody irritating are those horns!
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| 1 - 0 these Argie's look good
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| Quote ="latchfordbob"I heard of a story the other day (may be the same one) that some woman had strung a load of England flags across the road tied to two lamp posts. The council rules were that nothing was allowed to be tied to lamp posts so the order went out for someone to take them down due to health and safety grounds.
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read todays daily mirror page 7....this has something to do with it being offensive..balls to em if they feel offended they know what to do
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