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| Mathers' wife due to give birth very soon.
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed"If Richie scored 10 tries in a match, had a kick return of 400 metres per game and picked out balls from the air for fun he'd still have people on his back
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Get over this obsession that everyone is on his back. He's a decent player, but error prone and ultimately not quite good enough, hence is being replaced. His application and attitude are not in question and nor is his loyalty just his quality.
Hodgson is a vast improvement and you won't see a flurry of top SL clubs looking to recruit Mathers. That is no coincidence either.
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| Dont chuck the baby out with the bath water thats what i say !!
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| Quote ="Wirefan"Get over this obsession that everyone is on his back. He's a decent player, but error prone and ultimately not quite good enough, hence is being replaced. His application and attitude are not in question and nor is his loyalty just his quality.
Hodgson is a vast improvement and you won't see a flurry of top SL clubs looking to recruit Mathers. That is no coincidence either.'"
Listen, no one is averse from criticism but as long as it's fair i don't mind.
If Moz made 10 mistakes and then Briers made 10 and Myler the same yet Richie Mathers made 1, i know for a fact what the 1st topic would be on here.
If it's fair and justified fire away if you feel the need but don't prejudge certain players
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed"Listen, no one is averse from criticism but as long as it's fair i don't mind.
If Moz made 10 mistakes and then Briers made 10 and Myler the same yet Richie Mathers made 1, i know for a fact what the 1st topic would be on here.
If it's fair and justified fire away if you feel the need but don't prejudge certain players'"
Actually I completely disagree. Wire fans will criticise anyone. Briers has had plenty of stick from our fans over the years.
There is no witch-hunt here, most of our players get stick if they make mistakes. King has, Monas did, Clarke does, Higham does, Penny did. This isn't an anti-Mathers thing yet you seem to be making it into an issue.
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| Quote ="Dave T"Actually I completely disagree. Wire fans will criticise anyone. Briers has had plenty of stick from our fans over the years.
There is no witch-hunt here, most of our players get stick if they make mistakes. King has, Monas did, Clarke does, Higham does, Penny did. This isn't an anti-Mathers thing yet you seem to be making it into an issue.'"
What I've noticed on here Dave is that a lot of posters on here are like Piranhas, one will bite and the rest come in.
Why is it that we always need a scapegoat ?
Briers and Clarke been out a while so i can see why they've been left alone, Monas was out of position and still gets a little stick when he plays as a half back, Penny still gets stick and as been no where near the 1st team. These have all been fleeting small comments from the odd poster who has a beef with the same player regardless week in week out eg (LWF-Briers, Padders-Penny)
The Mathers bashing though is getting like the Wigan stuff and almost quite unfair and definitely disproportional.
Like i said, criticise away but make it fair and proportionate, but we take it upon ourselves it would seem to just zone in on one player and stick with it. It only seems to stop when people just get fed up or bored.
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed"What I've noticed on here Dave is that a lot of posters on here are like Piranhas, one will bite and the rest come in.
Why is it that we always need a scapegoat ?
Briers and Clarke been out a while so i can see why they've been left alone, Monas was out of position and still gets a little stick when he plays as a half back, Penny still gets stick and as been no where near the 1st team. These have all been fleeting small comments from the odd poster who has a beef with the same player regardless week in week out eg (LWF-Briers, Padders-Penny)
The Mathers bashing though is getting like the Wigan stuff and almost quite unfair and definitely disproportional.
Like i said, criticise away but make it fair and proportionate, but we take it upon ourselves it would seem to just zone in on one player and stick with it. It only seems to stop when people just get fed up or bored.'"
I'm not covinced tbh. Some fans are pains in the ar$es and not happy unless they are bagging their own players, but I don't think Mathers gets any more than other players who have got stick.
The likes of Penny and King were treated far far worse than Mathers has ever been.
Unfortunately Mathers doesn't really help himself at times. Before the game I was saying to the bloke next to me I feel a touch sorry for him, as I rate him at FB, yet he then struggled with most short kicks, although credit should go to Bosc for the quality of them. Mathers had a very good game, but ultimately, the mistakes could end up quite costly.
The ironic thing here though is that Mathers has made 9 mistakes in 9 games, whereas Hodgson has made 15 in 7, so don't worry they will have somebody else to moan about when he joins us. He also made most errors in SL last season, so he is consistent in this area.
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| Players come and go and professional sport can be cruel sometimes. Mathers is clearly happy at the HJ and
probably due to his very unhappy spell at Wigan, feels at home here. TS obviously feels Hodgson can do a better job for us and no one is going to argue with him about that. (apart from Richie). Yep, sad to see a committed and whole hearted player leave, (if he does) we've had plenty over the years who've shown little of that, but Richie can be proud of his achievements so far at Warrington.
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| don't know where all this rubbish came from that I started hodgson rumours I had about 60 people ask me out of the blue.. I haven't cont..
been told anything official, I just replyed to those people who asked me.. as it happened it got released he was leaving hudds on sat...
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| Quote ="Wire_85"don't know where all this rubbish came from that I started hodgson rumours I had about 60 people ask me out of the blue.. I haven't cont..
been told anything official, I just replyed to those people who asked me.. as it happened it got released he was leaving hudds on sat...'"
Obviously got a talking to from Tony today. Rightly so in my opinion. It was his "moody" statuses which fanned the flames, intentionally or unintentionally.
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| Heard that a move to the opposite code maybe Mathers next destination...Sale or maybe Leeds Carnegie? Anyone heard this?
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| Okay so we know Brett is on his way over for sure now.
But what will happen to Mathers?
And more importantly, how will we be able to find out what is going to happen to him (before it happens)?
As has been the answer all week: stalk him on Twitter.
The most recent development:
Person to Mathers via Twitter says: "Not fancy coming back to union? I've heard rumours about you signing for Carnegie. "
Mathers replies to person via Twitter: "I wouldn't rule it out..."
Discuss.
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| Funny you should mentioned this, but i brought this up last night that i had heard that Sale and possibly Leeds carnegie were interested in sighning him and asked if anyone else had heard this but my post seamed to have been deleted.
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| At least his defensive abilities won't get questioned in Union
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| unless tony smith has explicitly told mathers that there is no place for him at warrington then surely his reaction should be that he is going to use the rest of the season to make himself absolutely indispensible at fullback for warrington and hodgson can come here and play on wing instead of hicks
i know they are at different stages of their careers but maybe mathers should take a leaf out of riley's book in terms of getting himself back into 1st team, rather than throwing toys out of pram and deciding to switch to union
although i can see what a blow it is for him bringing in a player quite clearly to fill his position and he can't be blamed for exploring his options
at the worst he is putting himself in shop window and so we should get some good games out of him
thought he might have been trying out for the yorkshire beach volleyball team with that "spike" he did immediately preceeding catalans try...could there be any truth in that?
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| Good luck to the lad whatever happens.
Been a great servant to the club no matter what anybody says.
He can hold his head up high when he leaves.
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| Previous tweets;
for the record I would have 110% been happy to stay at wire I love it there, but what option do I have but to explore every opportunity ..?
anyway bored of it all now, glad it's out in the open and I can just enjoy rest of this year and see where it takes me... stretch, bed time
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| Quote ="Wire_74"Good luck to the lad whatever happens.
Been a great servant to the club no matter what anybody says.
He can hold his head up high when he leaves.'"
well said.remember he got the ball rolling at wembley..and put richards in touch early doors in the semi at widnes..for that alone he should be thanked
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| I think Richie will still be here next season, not altogether sure why i think this, maybe its just the fact that i dont think a player would be so open on a social networking site. Could it possibly be a little wind up ? I hope so .
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| Ts said in a paper that BH will only play in certain games and wont play in all the games.So who else will plaY Fb when BH isnt.My take on it is Mathers will still be at Wire next season
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| Quote ="robbierotten"Ts said in a paper that BH will only play in certain games and wont play in all the games.So who else will plaY Fb when BH isnt.My take on it is Mathers will still be at Wire next season'"
Not many clubs will be carrying two experienced senior fullbacks who have little capability or need to cover elsewhere.
From his Tw@ttering you could deduce he's been told his contract will not be renewed before Hodgson was announced.
Hodgson not playing every game is because he'll be 33 and maybe also because you'll need to bring that young taff through.
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| Quote ="robbierotten"Ts said in a paper that BH will only play in certain games and wont play in all the games.So who else will plaY Fb when BH isnt.My take on it is Mathers will still be at Wire next season'"
Link?
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TS.."I'm not going to play him every game for the next two years, I'll look after him. I understand his age and I understand what he's been through. He knows his own body as well as anybody and he's not silly. He knows how to use it and he's smart with it - we'll take care of him."
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TS.."I'm not going to play him every game for the next two years, I'll look after him. I understand his age and I understand what he's been through. He knows his own body as well as anybody and he's not silly. He knows how to use it and he's smart with it - we'll take care of him."
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| Quote ="Les Boyd Is God"and put richards in touch early doors in the semi at widnes.'"
Mathers almost gifted Pat Richards an interception try in that game, i think Wigan were 8-0 up at the time and Mathers threw out a wild pass to the right. Pat Richards almost caught the ball with no Warrington players in front of him, it would have been a clear run under the posts for Richards which would have made the scoreline 14-0 to Wigan at that point which would have made it tough for us.
Mathers has great enthusiasm and does a lot of things well, unfortunatley he does a lot of things poorly as well which hasn`t gone unoticed by our coach it seems hence the signing of Brett Hodgson. I don`t think any Warrington fan dislikes him on a personal level, their is no doubt about his effort and commitment its just we need to do a lot better in that position to become an all round better side. He`s hardly a rock at the back and if a kick goes up the outcome is a complete lottery, you need better than that from your fullback at the level were aiming for.
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| Quote ="jenni17"news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/super_league/huddersfield/8641538.stm
TS.."I'm not going to play him every game for the next two years, I'll look after him. I understand his age and I understand what he's been through. He knows his own body as well as anybody and he's not silly. He knows how to use it and he's smart with it - we'll take care of him."'"
Thank you
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