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| Quote ="Harvey 69"CRAP you talk.
We need lee briers on the pitch all the time and we need to sign a quality replacement for him now.
If lee had played last night we would of won that game, no doubt about it ,'"
Dialogue has already begun. If Wire get their target player we'll all be very happy.
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| Quote ="Rocketman"...... when it didn't matter.'"
We can't beat you in big games, if you're not in them.
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| Quote ="Blobbynator"We can't beat you in big games, if you're not in them.'"
We did our part last year, where were you ?
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| Quote ="JWP"We did our part last year, where were you ?'"
Pity we weren't there. I've been hoping for a Wire-Saints final for a few years now, not because we beat you so regularly but because we both play similar, open-style rugby league and so our games have become so good to watch. Pity we were total bollox last season. Well, a pity from my POV anyway!!
Meanwhile, all Saints fans saved a small fortune last year as going to Wembley three years on the bounce proved very, very pricey!
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Pity we weren't there. I've been hoping for a Wire-Saints final for a few years now, not because we beat you so regularly but because we both play similar, open-style rugby league and so our games have become so good to watch. Pity we were total bollox last season. Well, a pity from my POV anyway!!
Meanwhile, all Saints fans saved a small fortune last year as going to Wembley three years on the bounce proved very, very pricey!'"
It was the final the public wanted wasn't it. I know it was the final that I wanted. If we were to get there again this year, I really sincerely hope it'd be against your lot, and I know that there's a greater risk of heartache with your lot, but I want it to feel like a final. There was something missing last year for me somehow, sort of difficult to explain, it'll seem like I'm running Huddersfield down, just a lack of emotion, lack of atmosphere, lack of hatred if you like - so to speak. It was all a bit too nicey nicey.
I want to win, with a try in the last minute, and during wild scenes of celebrations, for my brain to engage and think "Ha ha, there's 30,000 of them sods in bits over there, 'ave some of that ... there's your 16 years ... shove it up your $%££$ %%£ £&££$ ..." (At this point, my voice will start to break up, and I'll cry, lots.)
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| Just a few points :-
Yes your time will come - good coach, good team explains why
Yes we did have an awful season last season. 2nd in league, losing grand finalists, beaten in Semi Final of Challenge Cup.
You won the Challenge Cup last year terrific performance. But tell me, how many of your fans on here would settle now, for a season like Saints had last year ?
Briers may or may not have won you the game, but if your so reliant on one player that needs addressing.
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| Quote ="JWP"We did our part last year, where were you ?'"
First big game in how many years? We were waiting to take you in the Grand Final, but you couldn't even make the Play Offs.
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| Quote ="Blobbynator"First big game in how many years? We were waiting to take you in the Grand Final, but you couldn't even make the Play Offs.'"
What makes you so sure you would have beaten us in a grand final had we got there? It's not like you have much success in grand finals against teams who play in blue and yellow is it?
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| Quote ="Wilderspool memories"What makes you so sure you would have beaten us in a grand final had we got there?'"
There are no guarantee's, but our record of 39 wins, 2 draws and 1 defeat against you is pretty convincing.
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| Wet heavy pitch. That means forwards need to perform and half-backs need to control your position on the field with a good kicking game. Our forwards did their part, the half-backs were awful for us. What happened to Monas's kicking game out of dummy half? Why does Richie Myler always seem to miss kick the ball? Grix was the most effective kicker for me, why didn't do it more often?
The referee was awful. If Saints we're trying to get the ball out of their half and struggling, they received a penalty. I wasn't able to see the ins and outs of all of them, I just thought it strange that I was able to predict when a penalty would be given against us. 3 times I called it.
That game was ours for the taking, we bottled it. It was ours to lose and we did so.
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| Quote ="Wire Bury Bob"Wet heavy pitch. That means forwards need to perform and half-backs need to control your position on the field with a good kicking game. Our forwards did their part, the half-backs were awful for us. What happened to Monas's kicking game out of dummy half? Why does Richie Myler always seem to miss kick the ball? Grix was the most effective kicker for me, why didn't do it more often?
=#FF0000The referee was awful. If Saints we're trying to get the ball out of their half and struggling, they received a penalty. I wasn't able to see the ins and outs of all of them, I just thought it strange that I was able to predict when a penalty would be given against us. 3 times I called it.
That game was ours for the taking, we bottled it. It was ours to lose and we did so.
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Warrington won the penalty count 12 - 9.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Warrington won the penalty count 12 - 9.'"
So that's a 12-9 penalty count I've heard we won, a 13-6 one and an 11-8 one.
Which one is it then?
And anyway Rogues, I believe the poster you quoted was questioning the areas in which the penalties were given, not how many penalties were given.
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"Rubbish! Saints dealt with pretty much everything wire threw at them.
Wire won the pen count 13-6.'"
If I take your comment literally, that would imply we either:
a) didn't score tries, or:
b) fluked four scores
Which one is it?
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| Quote ="Mass Effect"So that's a 12-9 penalty count I've heard we won, a 13-6 one and an 11-8 one.
Which one is it then?
And anyway Rogues, I believe the poster you quoted was questioning the areas in which the penalties were given, not how many penalties were given.'"
Saints received three penalties on the first tackle. When it is even, it where, not how many that makes the difference.
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| Quote ="Blobbynator"First big game in how many years? We were waiting to take you in the Grand Final, but you couldn't even make the Play Offs.'"
Right. So Saints didn't really want to get to the CC Final?
I will reiterate; you are an imbecile.
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| Quote ="Mass Effect"So that's a 12-9 penalty count I've heard we won, a 13-6 one and an 11-8 one.
Which one is it then?
And anyway Rogues, I believe the poster you quoted was questioning the areas in which the penalties were given, not how many penalties were given.'"
The 12 - 9 figure was from todays League Express
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| What's the obsession with the penalty count determining which team a referee 'favoured'?
Hyperthetical situation...
Team A v Team B.
Team A receives 10 penalties which are all awarded inside their own 20 on the 1st tackle.
Team B receives 5 penalties but they are awarded inside Team A's 20 on the 5th tackle.
Question 1
WHich team would be quoted as having won the penalty count?
Question 2
Which team gained greater advantage from the penalties given?
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| What's the obsession with referees generally?
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"Right. So Saints didn't really want to get to the CC Final?
I will reiterate; you are an imbecile.'"
Of course we did. Unfortunately we drew Hudds rather than our perennial easy beats, but that's the nature of the Cup.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Warrington won the penalty count 12 - 9.'"
I was trying to comment on the fact that he wasn't refereeing the game based on the simple idea of giving a penalty when he saw one. I was able to predict that a penalty would be given against us in the next 2 or 3 tackles based on how much pressure Saints were under. I did so 3 times. There was so much going on in that game that he could have stopped for a penalty at pretty much any play of the ball that he wanted. I just thought it odd that I could pick out when he would do so.
All that said, We didn't deserve to win the game, any direction whatsoever from our half backs in the last 10 mins would have seen us win. Unfortunately there was none.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"I will reiterate; you are an imbecile.'"
The feeling is very much mutual.
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| That was our worst performance of the season and from what I am hearing from Saints fans, was one of their best, plus they had a full strength side.
Referee gave some strange decisions.
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| Quote ="JWP"It was the final the public wanted wasn't it. '"
I do believe it was, yes.
Quote I know it was the final that I wanted. '"
Same here.
Quote If we were to get there again this year, I really sincerely hope it'd be against your lot, and I know that there's a greater risk of heartache with your lot, but I want it to feel like a final. '"
That's it. We've had that with Leeds in the Grand Finals of the last three years. There is real competition and rivalry (although to be fair on the third occasion those Saints fans like me who braved it probably felt a similar feeling to Wire fans turning up at Knowsley Road!). From a Wire perspective, to do us at the Wembley final would probably feel a zillion times better than at Knowsley Road (because of the hoodoo) and from our perspective to keep the hoodoo going at a Wembley final would feel even better than keeping it going at Knowsley Road. So I think that twist to the tale would have given the final an extra zing that any other meeting (bar both of us with Wigan) would have lacked. IMO, obviously.
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| Quote ="TF and the wire"That was our worst performance of the season and from what I am hearing from Saints fans, was one of their best, plus they had a full strength side.'"
I can't speak for Wire's performance as I haven't watched them every week but it was certainly Saints' best performance. Not that we were technically brilliant - we made too many mistakes for that - but we played as a unit and also we found some real determination after you came back at us with those quickfire tries that I haven't seen in the Saints team since about halfway through last season. That alone was very, very encouraging.
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| thought i was on the scousers forum for a mo,listening to all these gloating scousers on here..makes up for winning naff all last season
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