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| I didn't go but I think it's ludicrous that one or two people have basically written our season off based on a friendly performance. I pay little attention to them but even in competitive games how often do you see the odd surprise result in the first month of the season? Players are cold and out of practise having not played competitively for so long and it happens.
Wigan are a side, along with ourselves, who are widely tipped for a big season and from what I've read on here it sounds like last night was a good well contested match which is exactly what we needed. The result means nothing whatsoever.
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| Quote ="Jack Pepsi"I understand what your saying and to a certain extent your right, but he got pummelled last night and it will be even worse for him when the season starts, I just think before we know it we will be a couple of months in and he could be In bad shape if he doesn't as I say start the season running, I'm under no illusion the boys got talent, but if he doesn't start showing it from the beginning, we could have the same scenario as Mr Penny, started getting picked on, was under prepared and lost all his confidence in himself.
Myler does seem to talk a good game I just fear it could go either way.
I shall be there cheering him on on the seventh and wishing him and the team all the best. its just a worry.
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If that happens then we as fans need to get behind him he's only 19 and moves here to a new club under a massive price tag and with the pressure that brings, the lads got the talent there is no doubt about it, we just have to give him time scoring 4 on debut was prob the worst thing he could of done as it builds the pressure on him, for me he needs time to get it right with Briers and am sure Smith will be working on that in the next week and a half.
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| ffs the focus of the pre-season was not focused on this game it will be on the first competitive fixture. There may be a few concerns about the performance but certainly not the result which means [inothing[/i. I bet Smith is grateful that he has got something to work with and tune up in the next week.
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| not bothered bout the result.
just about the poor performance, and nothing has changed or should i be buzzin that we conceeded 36pts in 2 meaningful games with our strongest teams out. soz.
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| Quote ="Hicksy"not bothered bout the result.
just about the poor performance, and nothing has changed or should i be buzzin that we conceeded 36pts in 2 meaningful games with our strongest teams out. soz.'"
meaningless not meaningful.
Only 7th Feb onwards could be described as the latter.
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| was i the only one that was impreseed by mylers attitude? he was bossin the team around and even giving out a few bollockings, at a twenty metre restart at the very end of the 1st half i thought he was gonna explode he screamed at the team so hard for ppl just standing around and not getting set! he was supporting well and providing a second phase option but did anyone really expect us to start showing planned moves in a friendly?
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| Quote ="Dropkick Murphy"I didn't go but I think it's ludicrous that one or two people have basically written our season off based on a friendly performance. I pay little attention to them but even in competitive games how often do you see the odd surprise result in the first month of the season? Players are cold and out of practise having not played competitively for so long and it happens.
Wigan are a side, along with ourselves, who are widely tipped for a big season and from what I've read on here it sounds like last night was a good well contested match which is exactly what we needed. The result means nothing whatsoever.'"
Spot on.
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| Quote ="JWP"meaningless not meaningful.
Only 7th Feb onwards could be described as the latter.'"
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| just to add as well, for someone that can't/won't pass i thought atkins took the ball in and offloaded well quite a few times.
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| As we walked in, my mate said 'if we lose this, it will be doom and gloom, if we win, it will be top of the league'
He wasn't wrong.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"As we walked in, my [size=150mate[/size said 'if we lose this, it will be doom and gloom, if we win, it will be top of the league'
He wasn't wrong.'"
Pull the other one.
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| Oh well, another season over before its even begun. Personally i`d write this season off after last nights result and start the rebuilding for 2011, the first big game we play and we fall at the first hurdle. We should use the rest of the season to have a look at the squad to see where changes need to be made for next year.
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| Quote ="Rob Wire"Oh well, another season over before its even begun. Personally i`d write this season off after last nights result and start the rebuilding for 2011, the first big game we play and we fall at the first hurdle. We should use the rest of the season to have a look at the squad to see where changes need to be made for next year.'"
what did you think of atkins last night rob?
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| Quote ="Cat Baljeet"what did you think of atkins last night rob?'"
I didn`t go the game mate so i can`t comment on how he went last night or how the team went, from what ive seen of him in the past he seems a very direct player, strong and hard to put down with a decent step and turn of foot. I think we`ll be stronger for signing him as i`m not convinced about Mat King`s centre skills, he doesn`t beat the first man often enough and doesn`t really create that many openings for others with ball in hand. Where King is strong is close to the line, he is powerful and hard to stop plus his height is a huge advantage to have from kicks.
On the centres for this season its a tricky one, i don`t rate Chris Bridge as a high calibre centre, he`s just solid and does the basics fairly well. He`s certainly no Bateman, he also won`t do a lot of what Martin Gleeson used to do at his peak where he easily beats his opposite number on a regular basis. I`d have Atkins as the left centre with Riley as his partner, i`d be tempted to start with King at right centre to partner Hicks. Its just my opinion, Tony Smith will know whats best as he see`s them a lot more than we do.
I don`t expect to get any pats on the back from the Chris Bridge fan club but thats how i view him, he didn`t exactly shine for England, he will do well ok against weaker backlines but i don`t expect to get many match winning performances from him like you`ll get from Gidley and Senior on a fairly regular basis.
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| Quote ="bomberwells"If anyone seriously thought for one minute that wire would come out all guns blazing for a pre season friendly against wigan then they need locking up. Tony Smith is far too intelligent than to show his hand before the season has even started. Like someone else said, come 20th February I think we will see a completely different game from both teams and hopefully a different result to boot
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Think you're spot on.
The next game against Wigan will be my first of the season and I still expect to see a Wire win even after last night.
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| Doesn't count as it wasn't a SL match, Wigan were only there for our lads to practice on, a bit like crash test dummies but thicker.lol
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| nice run out for the lads i think ... we just didnt seem to want it doesnt matter though we will prove em all wrong when the real thing begins ... come on the wire !!
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| I know he played in super league last season and I genuinly want him to be the next andrew johns. My points are that last season he didnt have the price tag he has now and theres alot of players out there who cant wait to bring him in line, We played Leigh when he scored the tries and looked good and I put most of that down to hard work in the forwards. Im a life long wire fan and dont want the penny syndrome to hit myler.....You know the 1, Hes great penny ,better than Offiah .....Hes f#$^ng crap Penny shouldnt be in a Wire shirt.
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| Quote ="Rob Wire"I didn`t go the game mate so i can`t comment on how he went last night or how the team went, from what ive seen of him in the past he seems a very direct player, strong and hard to put down with a decent step and turn of foot. I think we`ll be stronger for signing him as i`m not convinced about Mat King`s centre skills, he doesn`t beat the first man often enough and doesn`t really create that many openings for others with ball in hand. Where King is strong is close to the line, he is powerful and hard to stop plus his height is a huge advantage to have from kicks.
On the centres for this season its a tricky one, i don`t rate Chris Bridge as a high calibre centre, he`s just solid and does the basics fairly well. He`s certainly no Bateman, he also won`t do a lot of what Martin Gleeson used to do at his peak where he easily beats his opposite number on a regular basis. I`d have Atkins as the left centre with Riley as his partner, i`d be tempted to start with King at right centre to partner Hicks. Its just my opinion, Tony Smith will know whats best as he see`s them a lot more than we do.
I don`t expect to get any pats on the back from the Chris Bridge fan club but thats how i view him, he didn`t exactly shine for England, he will do well ok against weaker backlines but i don`t expect to get many match winning performances from him like you`ll get from Gidley and Senior on a fairly regular basis.'"
Have a look at his assist for the Riley try. That looks top class to me.
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| Quote ="mark_m"Have a look at his assist for the Riley try. That looks top class to me.'"
Yeh that was good centre play which i agree with, its standard centre play though to draw in your opposite number and slip the pass to your winger. How many games in the past can you count where you would say that Chris Bridge was the difference in us winning and losing ?
If you look at the big clubs down the years that have shared the bulk of the silverware they all had at least one destructive centre who was always a danger when ever they touched the ball, we had that in the past with the likes of Davies and Bateman, Saints have had it with Newlove, Gleeson, Lyon and Gidley to name a few, Leeds have had it with Senior, the Bulls had that with Hape before injuries set in.
I`m hoping that Ryan Atkins can be our destructive centre, he has the ability to beat players with pace and power, he`s also capable of long range individual tries. I don`t see any X factor with Chris Bridge, i seem him as solid rather than having that special play in his locker where he creates something out of nothing on a consistent basis.
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| Quote ="Rob Wire"Yeh that was good centre play which i agree with, its standard centre play though to draw in your opposite number and slip the pass to your winger. How many games in the past can you count where you would say that Chris Bridge was the difference in us winning and losing ?
If you look at the big clubs down the years that have shared the bulk of the silverware they all had at least one destructive centre who was always a danger when ever they touched the ball, we had that in the past with the likes of Davies and Bateman, Saints have had it with Newlove, Gleeson, Lyon and Gidley to name a few, Leeds have had it with Senior, the Bulls had that with Hape before injuries set in.
I`m hoping that Ryan Atkins can be our destructive centre, he has the ability to beat players with pace and power, he`s also capable of long range individual tries. I don`t see any X factor with Chris Bridge, i seem him as solid rather than having that special play in his locker where he creates something out of nothing on a consistent basis.'"
Bridge on his game can outfox anyone with his step and footwork.
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| Quote ="Rob Wire"Yeh that was good centre play which i agree with, its standard centre play though to draw in your opposite number and slip the pass to your winger. How many games in the past can you count where you would say that Chris Bridge was the difference in us winning and losing ?
If you look at the big clubs down the years that have shared the bulk of the silverware they all had at least one destructive centre who was always a danger when ever they touched the ball, we had that in the past with the likes of Davies and Bateman, Saints have had it with Newlove, Gleeson, Lyon and Gidley to name a few, Leeds have had it with Senior, the Bulls had that with Hape before injuries set in.
I`m hoping that Ryan Atkins can be our destructive centre, he has the ability to beat players with pace and power, he`s also capable of long range individual tries. I don`t see any X factor with Chris Bridge, i seem him as solid rather than having that special play in his locker where he creates something out of nothing on a consistent basis.'"
This will be the first time he has started a season with us knowing what position he will actually play, I would reserve judgement until the season progresses. I think his balance and footwork ARE special.
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| Quote ="mark_m"This will be the first time he has started a season with us knowing what position he will actually play, I would reserve judgement until the season progresses. I think his balance and footwork is special.'"
here here,
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| Quote ="mark_m"This will be the first time he has started a season with us knowing what position he will actually play, I would reserve judgement until the season progresses. I think his balance and footwork ARE special.'"
Fair comment Mark, nobody is saying Chris Bridge is a bad player, i certainly aint anyway. Its just opinions, some fans will like a certain style of player where as other fans will prefer a different type player.
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| Thought the game was very flat, but the centre and wing positions looked promising especially Atkins who seemed to offer something we have been laking. In support of what has been posted before when we get up to 20 m line we lack idea's, it did remind me of last seasons negative performances at times but this is what friendlies are for, to work out the problems. Smith will be working on that this week and I am sure a different team will turn up for the quins game , maybe not individual wise but definitely tactical wise.
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