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| Quote ="Wire_Yed"playing devils advocate here
Is denying the Holocaust 'Racist' ?'"
Just to come back to this...
If the holocaust was about destroying a race (or races) of people who weren't Aryan, then denying its existence is racist. Why else would you deny it?
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"The affluence of the lucky ones, doesn't disprove the point. '"
Depends what the point is. The "lucky ones" are the vast majority, and the vast majority have never had it so good, even if there are some problems for parts of the community. Now, if that minority is a concern, and it should be, then a socialist solution is the way to solve it. But that is way beyond the country being in dog poo or whatever the BNP supporter said.
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| Why can't we just carry on like we are doing? After all we live in a massive country, with unlimited land, a massive surplus of jobs, loads of spare housing, unlimited school places, hospital beds, wide open roads. Suerly anyone who disagrees with this is a racist.
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| If the BNP were solely an anti-immigration party, then your attempt at sarcasm might have some value. At least we could argue over whether stopping all immigration (and emigration??) would improve the country or not. However, they are a racist party who actually want a white (and probably Christian) country but can't say so.
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| I think they have actually said so.
I'm off to Pets at home tomorrow to get a few hundred guppies for my 2 foot fish tank.
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| If you are in Labour, shouldn't you go to the Hospital?
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| Quote ="The All New Chester Wire"If the BNP were solely an anti-immigration party, then your attempt at sarcasm might have some value. At least we could argue over whether stopping all immigration (and emigration??) would improve the country or not. However, they are a racist party who actually want a white (and probably Christian) country but can't say so.'"
Good post.
I could spend all day listing racist comments/actions of the BNP, but a recent 1 which i've found is pretty disturbing.
One of our most recent Victoria Cross recipients Johnson Beharry was mocked by the BNP after receiving his medal as an "immigrant" and a mere "positive discrimination.
Those who vote for the BNP need to look beyond the glossy leaflet they get on their doorstep and decide whether you are a prepared to be tarred with all of the BNP's racist agenda.
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| this word racist keeps cropping up..gonna play devils advocate here with those who have a working brain cell.... how come the word racist works only one way...and who are the ones useing/playing it...
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| Quote ="Les Boyd Is God"this word racist keeps cropping up..gonna play devils advocate here with those who have a working brain cell.... how come the word racist works only one way...and who are the ones useing/playing it...'"
How do you play racism?????....
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| Quote ="The Angry Pirate"How do you play racism?????....
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well it only works one way ...i cant play it..wont be allowed
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| What if you oppose someone relocating to this country who is of British descent, say third generation South Africans or Australians. Is this racist?
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| i think this has run its course it's totally irrelevant to rl opinions are like your rear passage everybodys got one and not everyone will agree with each other so lets have it locked and stop starting unrelated (non sport) topics
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| the guy who supports the Nazi party wants an end to discussion and democracy, what a surprise
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"the guy who supports the Nazi party wants an end to discussion and democracy, what a surprise'"
...Aye, probably because he backed himself into a very tight corner with nowhere to go.....We shouldn't lock it for the sole reason as so he can continue to dig that large hole he has started....
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| Quote ="Les Boyd Is God"well it only works one way ...i cant play it..wont be allowed'"
Course you can.....I might be mistaken, but in the last few months we have had the BNP on Question Time, basically arguing for the removal of 'non-Brits' from our shores, whilst only last week an admittedly extreme Muslim group were banned for wanting to protest against what many believe to be an illegal war in the Middle East....
I think that's racism played in the manner that you would approve of....
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| Quote ="The Angry Pirate"Course you can.....I might be mistaken, but in the last few months we have had the BNP on Question Time, basically arguing for the removal of 'non-Brits' from our shores, whilst only last week an admittedly extreme Muslim group were banned for wanting to protest against what many believe to be an illegal war in the Middle East....
I think that's racism played in the manner that you would approve of....
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well if thats true its about time the tide turned..but my point is when was the last time a white person played the race card...
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| Quote ="The Angry Pirate"icon_lol.gif ...Aye, probably because he backed himself into a very tight corner with nowhere to go.....We shouldn't lock it for the sole reason as so he can continue to dig that large hole he has started....
'" you really are a prize d!ck head
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| Quote ="the original stevo"you really are a prize d!ck head'"
And you run coaches that are a hazard to society in general, so that makes us equal....
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| Quote ="The Angry Pirate"And you run coaches that are a hazard to society in general, so that makes us equal....
'" it what respect are they hazardous explain yourself
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"the guy who supports the Nazi party wants an end to discussion and democracy, what a surprise'" I can vote for whom i god damn like i've earned that right, i've done my bit for queen,flag and country
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| Quote ="the original stevo"it what respect are they hazardous explain yourself'"
Twas a joke refering to the coach which went to Scotland, with the wing mirrors blowing in the breeze and which packed up knackered when it got there....Don't take it too serious...
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| Quote ="The Angry Pirate"icon_lol.gif ...Aye, probably because he backed himself into a very tight corner with nowhere to go.....We shouldn't lock it for the sole reason as so he can continue to dig that large hole he has started....
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Factamundo.
He's happy to offer his opinion but as soon as it's countered with reasoned argument and someone who obviously agrees with him (Les Boyd Is God) is looking like a prize bellend, suddenly it's time to agree to disagree and lock the thread.
I have my views but I'm not as politically articulate as some others. Chester Wire has been bang on the money throughout this thread though.
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| Quote ="the original stevo"I can vote for whom i god damn like i've earned that right, i've done my bit for queen,flag and country'"
Course you can...Just be careful what you wish for, voting for a bunch of extremists like that....Hitler probably sounded quite appealing in the mid 1930's.
Remember, the BNP is a simple party for simple people....
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| Quote ="Dropkick Murphy"Factamundo.
He's happy to offer his opinion but as soon as it's countered with reasoned argument and someone who obviously agrees with him (Les Boyd Is God) is looking like a prize bellend, suddenly it's time to agree to disagree and lock the thread.
I have my views but I'm not as politically articulate as some others. Chester Wire has been bang on the money throughout this thread though.'"
thats rich coming from a pillock like you sorry bellend...i have my views same as you like it or lump it tool
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| Quote ="Dropkick Murphy"Factamundo.
He's happy to offer his opinion but as soon as it's countered with reasoned argument and someone who obviously agrees with him (Les Boyd Is God) is looking like a prize bellend, suddenly it's time to agree to disagree and lock the thread.
I have my views but I'm not as politically articulate as some others. Chester Wire has been bang on the money throughout this thread though.'" my whole point to locking it is the fact it has naff all to do with rugby but there are individuals who like carrying on being argumentetive and hiding behind their pc monitors
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