ok thanks thats put me in my place

like i said i am relativley new to the sport!

wouldn't worry about it, there's plenty of longstanding rugby league speccies get that wrong about the broncos, quite a lot on purpose.

Quote ="Supermole"ok thanks thats put me in my place like i said i am relativley new to the sport!'" Here is the meat on the bones. You weren't so much wrong as incorrect. It had nothing to do with the RFL. www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2005/ma ... perleaguex

Quote ="Supermole"ok thanks thats put me in my place like i said i am relativley new to the sport!'" Here is the meat on the bones. You weren't so much wrong as incorrect. It had nothing to do with the RFL. www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2005/ma ... perleaguex

Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"Here is the meat on the bones. You weren't so much wrong as incorrect. It had nothing to do with the RFL. www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2005/ma ... perleaguex'" thanks for this i now have a better understanding i seem to remember this happening i just got a little confused thinking it was the rfl that bailed out

Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"Here is the meat on the bones. You weren't so much wrong as incorrect. It had nothing to do with the RFL. www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2005/ma ... perleaguex'" thanks for this i now have a better understanding i seem to remember this happening i just got a little confused thinking it was the rfl that bailed out

Don't worry, as said above, lots of people who were RL fans at the time still don't understand it. They seem to think that 'SL clubs voting between them with the backing of the RFL to allow the Broncos to continue as a SL club' somehow equals 'the RFL are corrupt and gave them loads of money'. To those with even half a brain, it obviously doesn't.

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Disagree with the strategy of expansionism and you are a nenaderthal hey? Doesnt sound like a sophisticated argument to me, infact its almost neanderthal.

Or, perhaps the blind fear of expansion without a rational argument makes you a neanderthal?

It'll never work! Catalans make the CC Final after two seasons.

It'll never work! Catalans firmly ensconced in third and in a rich vein of form heading towards the play-offs.

Keep it to the M62 corridor, it's heartlands where we can all in each others pockets.

Have to say all 12 SL Teams with Celtic and Salford. Would love Widnes to get one but their crowds and on pitch performances arent good enough.

"Murryfield Magic Games"

Leeds vs Stains
Wire vs Wigan
Quins vs Bradford
Catalan vs Hudds
Cas vs Wakey
Celtic vs Salford
Hull vs Hull KR

All Evenly matched games IMO (With Exception to Wakey vs Cas only based on this years games)

Good except would have Cats V Bradford and Quins V Hudds

I think the success of catalans shows that franchise will work

Teams will build for the future knowing that they have at least three years of super league money behind them!

I had Cats vs Bradford, but for some reasn changed it...

Would agree with changing them to that...

What about the teams who aren't in, and have x years without any chance of getting in no matter what they achieve?

You miss my point. Expansionism is to develop the profile and support level of the sport and cannot be based solely on the performance of one side. Loads of arguments why for against the current expansionist strategy, but my point was why would you be an neanderthal for thinking that a London side still with mickey poor attendances after 25 years of existence is an overwhelming success which should be replicated.

It hasn't been 25 years of consistancy though has it? That club has moved a few times.

What a great thread, congrats Mr*77 for stimulating such debate. Very rare we get a 7 pager on here and it's not revolving around Danny being a buffoon.

I think whatever Paul Youane thinks, that's my rules nowadays and I'm sticking to it. (Sorry WOTT, this guy is the real deal, capeesh.)

In all seriousness, it's real tough to call, you can see merits in all applications to be fair, I think even Leigh with the new facility can feel a tad hard done too if they don't get in.

Going back a few pages, i'd go with what behind the stick says, gut feeling says that the 12 that are in are in, so to speak.

Leaving just two slots, I'll plump for Salford & Widnes, but I do sincerely hope that i'm wrong and Celtic Crusaders get in. I think as fans, certainly our fans, we've always been very good at grasping these new concepts, taking many fans to Catalans, Millenium Magic, even cup finals that we aren't involved in are littered with Warrington fans, I think it's be nice to have another different fixture on the klist, weekend in Wales, taking in the rugby, something for the other half to do etc. It's be nice.

The way this has all been handled is just wrong. Some current SL clubs are now in the situation where they are unsure about whether or not they'll get a 'franchise', while other NL clubs might get one despite their performances on the field (which surely should be what it's all about?) not meriting a top flight spot.

If the powers that be are determined to fast-track the Welsh club, they should have said so at the start of this season - we're increasing to 14, Celtics are in, the bottom club goes down and the top two from NL1 come up.

The no relegation scenario this season has only made things worse - Wakefield could end up in the Cup final and the top six and be booted out, Cas could come bottom and stay in, someone pages back in this thread opined that Hull KR might not be safe despite putting out a competitive side since being promoted. It's bloody ridiculous.

Such ham-fisted, farcical administration hardly shows RL in a good light. This is no way to run a sport.

Personally I would like Widnes, Leigh and Salford to get in to even up the Lancashire and Yorkshire clubs. Don't know which one would drop out though - could be Hull KR, Castleford or Wakefield.

The same ones who have failed to gain promotion for the past x amount of years.

Whoa there Hoss. You are shoe-horning the criteria as you see it, then criticising the RFL for not utilising a P&R principle when nobody knows what the performance criteria is!

I haven't read the whole thread but if you look at Toulouse's proposals with an open mind they probably have the best application of all the clubs outside of SL, especially over Celtic who are in a similar situation but much weaker. I can't see the rfl taking the chance though and it would be very difficult to remove a current SL team even if that would be for the good of the game.
For me it'll be the current 12 plus Salford and Widnes/Celtic.

That's garbage and you know it. Leigh spring to mind.

I think that sums the whole shambles up.

Don't recall this being stated quite as emphatically anywhere before, anyone else?: Quote And at the end of the three-year period, Wood says he expects further changes. "The best performing National League club will be guaranteed admission to Super League, either at the expense of the worst performing club or by expanding the competition," he said. '" from news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 138760.stm So for those moaning about NL1 clubs being left to die - clearly not!

Don't recall this being stated quite as emphatically anywhere before, anyone else?: Quote And at the end of the three-year period, Wood says he expects further changes. "The best performing National League club will be guaranteed admission to Super League, either at the expense of the worst performing club or by expanding the competition," he said. '" from news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 138760.stm So for those moaning about NL1 clubs being left to die - clearly not!