Cattastic, you may have noticed that I took on your role on TotalRL by pointing out the fallacy of the "Gleeson iz well rubbish since he joined Dire" argument.

Good news for the club, I reckon. I'd like to see Gleeson go on to even bigger and better things in 2008.

Oh, and I was impressed by him in the Test Series, one dropped ball apart.

Regards Apollo he has a reputation for getting players "big" in the same way as ex GB and Bradfrod conditioner currently at Penrith whose name escapes me.

As stated the key to conditioning is conditioning is converting the lean mass from weights to maximal strength then converting that to power. Im sure this would be the case under the controll of Apollo.

For a centre Gleeson is carrying in my opinion excess weight i remember on the tri nations DVD last year seeing him with his shirt off and looking a bit tubby. I appreciate rugby is not body building but non lean mass is detremental to performance fact.

Im not sure Warringtons last conditioner Paul Derbyshire i think was up to much and could be the reason you have not over achieved. Many people point to the head coach but the conditioning of a team is in many ways more important than the technical coaching. A conditioner spends much more time with the players. Last year Harrison lost his job at Salford after a fantastic season the only thing that changed was the conditioner in the backroom staff, since McRea arrived he has now left the club.

My point regarding Gleeson is this at 17/18 he was young hungry and ambitious, motivated to make a career. To make the best of your ability you do have to live the game, i just think once he "made it" he may have lost focus on training and this i feel has shown, although his skills have improved i dont think he has made as much as he could of his ability.

I hope the new conditioner can address this situation as i feel every year he has lost a little in this area, and if he does im sure he will produce his best form of his career for England and Warrington.

Carl Jennings.

I think you are absolutely correct, a conditioner is as important a part of the coaching staff as any. It is one area that I feel we have been wanting for a while as the previous couple of guys were doubling up on their duties, something which was a little short-sighted in my opinion. We have a perfect oppportunity to make a meaningful apppointment this time round.

Thats the fella i should really know that as he was the bloke that gave me my first really useful info on how to get into the conditioning game.....and as much as it may upset a few posters on here i came very close to applying for the job at Wire, obviously not saying i would have got it but i think id be in with an underdogs chance given my CV to date, but i feel i need a couple more years where i am at or perhaps in another sport ie union or cricket before being able to do the job of a head rugby league conditioner justice.

Foreshaw at Wigan is another example of an odd choice of conditioner as he has few formal qualifications, same said for Hampson at GB.

Wakefield have a conditioner with experience, a masters and a PhD and i think it showed last year.

hampsons currently waiting by the phone for warrington to call him about our vacant conditioners posts, aparently he doesn't know how to use one

more gleeson is e stuff being spouted on the international forum.

Its all toss.

Good clause that.

crikey, bit of Nostradamus from me in that one.

Its quite interesting reading this thread back.

Looks like i was wrong i hold my hand up...Wire will never be a special team and King is garbage the rest seems about right.

viewtopic.php? ... &start=135 some cracking hypocrisy on there.

viewtopic.php? ... &start=135 some cracking hypocrisy on there.

Your ability to trawl the annals of time never ceases to impress.

it's on the first page of this thread, i can't take any credit for this.

I enjoy the fact that they all didn't want Carmont too

That whole thread must be fake, I'm posting on it....

Don't think he's a Wigan fan, but I bet you wouldn't like it if we pulled the Matt King threads up would you?

The ones where all the Wigan fans were calling him the messiah when he was rumoured to be signing for you, yet soon changed your minds when he chose us instead?

I don't know, I think that'd be quite enjoyable.

And the Wigan fans were right in the end.

Really? I thought he has improved these last few weeks.

Ok...

He's actually correct. problem is, when you have a disruptive influence around, it can be difficult to concentrate. At least that problem has gone now....

And that my friend cannot be a bad thing at all.

What do you expect, they are Wiganers, not the brightest bunch.

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who bright now