Probably made the right choice then as he is getting a start at one of the smaller clubs.

Talking of which Salford have found another young gem in Sneyd. Almost single handedly won it for Salford tonight. When are you signing him?

we could sign him if we wanted to and offer him bankbusting, salary cap breaking deal as we have bottomless amounts in the coffers,we don't really need him but i am very surprised he isn't part of your superlative youth system,he obviously isn't from warrington then?

A few 'Sneyd' comments on here at the moment.

Since this thread has started (Wed Jul 22, 2009 1:45 pm ), we have won
3 Challenge Cups
The League Leader's Shield
and made our first GF appearance.

Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but, there isn't an asterisk next to these achievements, saying "undeserved, as they didn't have enough homegrown talent"

Much as I'd love to have a starting XIII of Warrington bred lads, it's not going to happen any time soon. I'll take trophies, ta very much.

Kids are going to leave us, it's the law of sod. Some may go onto bigger and better things. Good luck to 'em. I'm sure we'll get some kids from Stains', Worriers and Leeds' academies in the future. As someone pointed out earlier, not many turn out to be the new Ellery Hanley.

Now there's an interesting name we may hear a bit more about in the next two or three years.

As hard as this may be to believe considering our recent history you will find Warrington will rarely sign players from now on. They want to actually see the benefits of the youth system.

What, Ellery Hanley? Do you reckon he's coming back then? Could be the next Wigan coach?

I would love Ellery to be back in rugby league, the greatest sportsman in history IMO.

No otherwise I would have highlighted=#FF0000 Ellery AND Hanley

Do you mean Dmya ? Which Scholarship dis he get ?

and saints have won nothing in the same time frame.

That is nearly as bad as some of my jokes.

Well I am a bit biased because I enjoy seeing the youngsters coming through, but I am not so sure we can necessarily look to the future using the past as a guide. We can no longer afford Oz stars because of their salary demands and the cap, and there are not as many quality players around in the league. So if you strip out the Monaghens, House and Hodgson, where are you going to find equivalent players that you can buy in from the UK ?

I would argue that we really need to 'find' young players and bring them through like Leeds. They are under the cap (to my knowledge) and that allows them to bring in players mid season if an opportunity arises. Also, if a bidding war did take place (end of season) between us and Leeds, they would win it because of their cap 'headroom'.

Another question; Do we have lower quality players at the moment because of all the overseas imports ? Have we avoided training decent young talent in the Uk because we could simply go out and buy it in the past ?

I agree there is no great pride in 100% home grown talent, but if we ended up with the majority coming through the Academy I suspect we would be in a much stronger position.

Yes. I think he'll be at Wigan U15's next season.

I couldn't resist it and it's the best I can do.

Noticed that Dougie Charnock has just signed for Barrow. I guess missing out on Charnock, Wright and Woods wasn't quite the end of the world.

Think Wright is working as a holiday rep now somewhere. Honestly.

Dmya went to Salford, Umyla has signed for Wigan and will be in the Wigan scholarship U15/U16's next season. He is probably the best in that age group along with Lewis Dodd from Halton Hornets who has gone to Saints.

When I read the OP

" John bastion shell shocked and dismayed when he heard."

I understood that John Bastion wanted to keep hold of them but couldn't rather than he knew they would not make it and was content to let them go. Which was it?

Left wigan after the 19s and then went to crusaders for a year but don't think he was seen anywhere last season.

Sunny beach, Bulgaria I think? shame he was a very promising young player, at Wigan he was far to intent on getting involved with any scuffles that started. Dougie never really got the starts he needed at Stains, but then he has to show willing as well. Savelio hasn't done too bad and of course we got the best deal keeping Dec Patton

his dad must be very proud at the minute.

True and the same applied to Josh Rooney, I don't know where he finished up.

Charnock is more a reflection of Keiron Cunningham's genius coaching than it is on the player's potential. He was a quality 6 in the academy and the club had two choices, either play him 6 or bulk him up and make him a 13. Instead, Cunnigham thought he could turn him into a hooker and ruined the kid's career. Same with Savelio and the crazy decision to turn him into a prop, ruin his confidence and release him to whoever wants to turn him back into a superstar.

He had to retire due to repeated broken arms didn't he? I think he was going to make it at Championship level at least, if not Super League.

He broke the first one at Crusaders and the second time at Rylands as I remember