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| Quote ="wire-flyer"I never understand it when people talk about 'getting to finals' when the goal should be 'winning finals''"
Hear hear. I bet you Shaun Wane and Ellery Hanley didn't take comfort from being beaten finalists.
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| The simples is, we dropped a bollox not signing a prop in close season. The board knows it...we know it.
I don't know whether it's Priceys fault, KF fault or both....but it's someones.
It was all too apparent when we lost Hill...had Saints not lost Warmsley before kick off, there may not have been that balance shift to such a scale.
Yes Wire will pick up wins with the return of Hill, but loose a prop again and backs against the wall...keep them fit and playing...we win.
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| Quote ="Wires71"I'm sorry but I expect more. We had 9 days rest and Wakefield had some key players out. A side that wants to win SL wins at Wakefield.'"
And by your same reasoning does a side that wants to win SL lose at a poor Warrington?
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"The simples is, we dropped a bollox not signing a prop in close season. The board knows it...we know it.
I don't know whether it's Priceys fault, KF fault or both....but it's someones.
It was all too apparent when we lost Hill...had Saints not lost Warmsley before kick off, there may not have been that balance shift to such a scale.
Yes Wire will pick up wins with the return of Hill, but loose a prop again and backs against the wall...keep them fit and playing...we win.'"
Thinking about...is Hill actually back vs TWP?
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| Quote ="Superblue"And by your same reasoning does a side that wants to win SL lose at a poor Warrington?
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I would like to think we compare a little more favourably than Wakefield in terms of squad quality and finances, would you not agree?
But I get your point, to you and those who share your view, losing at Wakefield is just a blip because they had a longer rest and a heavy pitch. We were unlucky and no team has a divine right to win. To others it's the continuation of inconsistent results, inability to score, patchy motivation, incredulous selection decisions, poor discipline and dreary league form.
If we go an extended unbeaten run now your view will be considered correct. Let's see.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Thinking about...is Hill actually back vs TWP?'"
No 3 game ban. Saints, Wakefield, Toronto.
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| Another little fact for Pricey to think about is why we have only scored above 20 points once in the last 12 games (inc Wembley).
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| Quote ="Wires71"Another little fact for Pricey to think about is why we have only scored above 20 points once in the last 12 games (inc Wembley).'"
It’s an ‘easy fix’, no need for us to worry.
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| Quote ="Wires71"Hear hear. I bet you Shaun Wane and Ellery Hanley didn't take comfort from being beaten finalists.'"
No but guess which club gave an open top bus celebration for losing at Wembley.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"No but guess which club gave an open top bus celebration for losing at Wembley.'"
....sally has just highlighted all what was wrong with British sport, until the Athens Olympics which coincided with the emergence of Lottery funding.
Until then, winning was almost a dirty word, and "heroic failure/near misses were looked on with pride.
Sadly, it's still the case at Wire.
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| ....I believe it isn't the case.
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| Personally I would have sought a new coach for this season, however the first 2 games showed promise, let’s see how the next few go before lighting the torches and marching on KF’s house, pitchforks in hand.
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Price is asking for time and getting his excuses in early.
https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/sp ... n-toronto/
[i“We played some really gritty football in the first two weeks,” he said.
“A few of the things we’ve been trying to implement were showcased, but Sunday wasn’t what we expect of ourselves.
“We’ve addressed that and the short turnaround is the best remedy for us.
“It’s early days. We’re missing both our captains and we’ve got two halves who have had five training sessions together.
“I’ve said it before but it’s going to take a little bit of time. We’ve got to be patient."
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He still doesn't get it does he? 2 wins from 12 is patient. How many more games does he need?
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https://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/sp ... n-toronto/
[i“We played some really gritty football in the first two weeks,” he said.
“A few of the things we’ve been trying to implement were showcased, but Sunday wasn’t what we expect of ourselves.
“We’ve addressed that and the short turnaround is the best remedy for us.
“It’s early days. We’re missing both our captains and we’ve got two halves who have had five training sessions together.
“I’ve said it before but it’s going to take a little bit of time. We’ve got to be patient."
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He still doesn't get it does he? 2 wins from 12 is patient. How many more games does he need?
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[i“We played some really gritty football in the first two weeks,” he said.
“A few of the things we’ve been trying to implement were showcased, but Sunday wasn’t what we expect of ourselves.
“We’ve addressed that and the short turnaround is the best remedy for us.
“It’s early days. We’re missing both our captains and we’ve got two halves who have had five training sessions together.
“I’ve said it before but it’s going to take a little bit of time. We’ve got to be patient."
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He still doesn't get it does he? 2 wins from 12 is patient. How many more games does he need?'"
He certainly doesn't agree with you, but then not everyone does.
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[i“We played some really gritty football in the first two weeks,” he said.
“A few of the things we’ve been trying to implement were showcased, but Sunday wasn’t what we expect of ourselves.
“We’ve addressed that and the short turnaround is the best remedy for us.
“It’s early days. We’re missing both our captains and we’ve got two halves who have had five training sessions together.
“I’ve said it before but it’s going to take a little bit of time. We’ve got to be patient."
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He still doesn't get it does he? 2 wins from 12 is patient. How many more games does he need?'"
He certainly doesn't agree with you, but then not everyone does.
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| Don't forget we beat Salford in pre-season
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| Quote ="Captain Hook"He certainly doesn't agree with you, but then not everyone does.'"
Of course not and that's what makes the world go round.
To me though asking for patience in the town newspaper to get things right is a little rich. It was a supposed "quick fix" back in June 2019. We are still waiting.
I hope that other poster is correct and we have set a long stop of Easter on this sorry state of affairs.
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| Quote ="wire-flyer"I never understand it when people talk about 'getting to finals' when the goal should be 'winning finals''"
Unfortunately, this is the clubs mentality. 'Always Our Year' chant being the pinnacle. The whole ethos and mentality needs changing. Shaun Wane would be the ideal choice for me. However, that now looks less likely.....
I agree its early days, but you cant help have a look back at the end of last season and see that something isn't right. For me, what we are serving up is just not good enough for where the club aspire to be. I for one hope the rumor earlier in the thread about Price being put on notice until Easter is true.....
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| Quote ="Longbarn Wire"Unfortunately, this is the clubs mentality. 'Always Our Year' chant being the pinnacle. '"
Singing this is basically giving voice to a collective tacit acceptance of failure.
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| Quote ="Wires71"Singing this is basically giving voice to a collective tacit acceptance of failure.'"
and the club made flags to support it......just an example of us accepting mediocrity.....a mentality change is a must, from top to bottom.
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| Quote ="Longbarn Wire"and the club made flags to support it......just an example of us accepting mediocrity.....a mentality change is a must, from top to bottom.'"
thats was roger and fit chloe, when was the last time you saw them on matchday? you don't, karl hates that ing chant as much as we do
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| In the midst of pre season I expected us to lose our first 3 games of the season with this Fridays game v Toronto being our best chance of a win....
I did not expect to be demanding to play a championship winger in a key position to give us an attacking edge...
I did not expect to see a dreadfully weak pack...and last minute signings like leilani latu
Each season seems to get more desperate.....despite a sprinkling of finals....
I really have no idea the direction the club is going....
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"thats was roger and fit chloe, when was the last time you saw them on matchday? you don't, karl hates that loving chant as much as we do'"
This is true. At a recent fans forum KF stated that he hated this chant however no arguments with KF and him being happy to settle for mediocrity.
He appointed Price in the first place he's not going to sack his mate anytime soon IMO.
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"In the midst of pre season I expected us to lose our first 3 games of the season with this Fridays game v Toronto being our best chance of a win....
I did not expect to be demanding to play a championship winger in a key position to give us an attacking edge...
I did not expect to see a dreadfully weak pack...and last minute signings like leilani latu
Each season seems to get more desperate.....despite a sprinkling of finals....
I really have no idea the direction the club is going....'"
It does astound me how poorly the club is ran nowadays.
You look at Simon Moran and how he has built up his SJM empire. The guy is a multi millionaire, very successful businessman. It's hard to see how SJM has become so successful and turns over millions of pounds year on years if he employs people who make the same mistakes as they do at his rugby club. You'd imagine to get where has has he'd be this absolute no nonsense ruthless guy but it comes across as quite the opposite.
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"This is true. At a recent fans forum KF stated that he hated this chant however no arguments with KF and him being happy to settle for mediocrity.
He appointed Price in the first place he's not going to sack his mate anytime soon IMO.'"
Do you think he even has a shortlist of possible candidates? I'd have been drawing one up last Sunday evening if there wasn't already one from the end of last season. When we lost Tony Smith it seemed like we had absolutely no idea where to turn! If we underperform over the coming month or 2 and Steve price does lose his job I'd like to think the next coach would be in place within a couple of weeks, having already been identified and accepted with only terms to agree on.
What will probably happen will be another exploratory trip to Australia wining and dining a load of coaches uninterested in moving to superleague in search of the golden goose.
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